Comment on Rent is theft

• MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The important part in this equation is that you can choose not to rent from them.

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  • Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yes, you can choose to die on the streets instead. What’s your point?

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    • cinoreus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      At the same time, if you choose to live in an economy where you don’t pay rent, you will barely find anyone outside your family willing to lend you a home.

      And replying to your previous comment, idk about America, but in other parts of the world, people outside of affluent class have homes, and rent is close to or less than 4% of property value annually, not 6-8% Americans are used to. That’s likely because corporates don’t buy property here at scale they do in America.

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      • Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        you will barely find anyone outside your family willing to lend you a home

        Yes, that’s why housing ownership should primarily be socialized, and access to affordable rent should be a right guaranteed by the public administration as much as healthcare and education.

        rent is close to or less than 4% of property value annually

        That’s still a worthless metric, though, rent should be proportional to construction costs + maintenance, not subjected to markets.

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• TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  sorry, what about your labor makes it more valuable than anyone else who also rents?

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  • Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Nothing. Abolish all private rent and socialize it

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    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Then the government will need to purchase the houses / apartments from the current owners so they still get a giant payday.

      Then you’d still be paying rent, just to the government instead which will mostly go towards paying administrators that don’t care or do anything just like current landlords.

      Unless you mean all social government owned housing should be free, and most private property should be government owned.

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      • Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Then the government will need to purchase the houses / apartments from the current owners

        Expropriation can be carried out without purchase, and it has been done in several countries to the great benefit of the workers. No need to pay for the housing of the landlords, we can just take it at gunpoint.

        Then you’d still be paying rent, just to the government instead which will mostly go towards paying administrators that don’t care or do anything just like current landlords

        Who says the housing has to be centrally administered? Housing could absolutely be organized by local collectives in charge of the maintenance of the buildings after its construction, likely in the form of democratically elected councils. As an example, most access to housing in the USSR was through the work’s union, not through the central government.

        Unless you mean all social government owned housing should be free

        No, people should pay costs to maintain it. For example, rent in the USSR was about 3% of the monthly income. Seems much better than what I pay now!

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