Comment on GOP congressman calls for execution of “sodomy-promoting” US Army general

Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• geekworking@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It is bullshit to deflect blame from Trump.

  The entire thing was about 2.5 hours. National guard members need to be called in, fitted out, and given a coordinated mission. Every other riot in history where they used National guard the response time was days instead of hours.

  Independent review shows no undue delays

  They are calling to hang this guy because he took more than an hour to ensure that at least some plan was in place before sending the military against citizens.

  If you want to blame military leaders, how about the commander in chief that set it in action and happily watched without doing a single damn thing to try to stop it.

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• PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So the reason given is that Gen. Milley delayed the response to Jan 6.

  And that he is a “sodomoy promoting”, “homosexual-promoting-BLM-activist”.

  The only reason somebody says something like that in the context of calling for execution is when they find these things as reasons for execution. Calling for the deaths of homosexuals is fascism, and the GOP is openly embracing it when they support people like Gosar.

  Also why does anyone care about Cruz when this guy is a congressman?

  Because of fascist rhetoric.

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  • sj_zero ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    America is a democratic Republic with a civilian head of the military. The elected president is that head.

    There are some very concerning things we've learned since the end of the last administration.

    We know that the military in the Middle East was lying to the commander in chief about numbers to stop a pullout ordered by the president:

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

    We also know that Milley bragged about secretly being in touch with the Chinese military reassuring them that it the head of the military ordered them to do something they'd refuse to do it.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/milley-held-secret-calls-with-china-others-as-trump-pushed-election-lies.html

    You might like these things because you agree with them, but America isn't supposed to be a military dictatorship, it isn't their call to disregard the civilian leadership, and it isn't their job to be doing diplomacy with countries America is hostile towards.

    Accepting such actions has a dangerous precedent. The military had planned project Northwoods, an operation to attack civilian targets in the US to justify a war. It was the civilian leadership of the military who put a stop to that plan, and everyone agrees that's a good thing.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

    Presumably, in 2023 instead of the civilian leadership stopping such a plan, the military would just go through with it.

    I don't agree with the anti-gay rhetoric, but it's true that in many other ages, a high ranking military man openly telling a hostile countrys military he'd disregard any orders to act against them would be treason, and the penalty for that would be death.

    If we keep letting the military go rogue, we might reach a point we wish we'd acted decisively sooner, when a leader we didn't control previously marches on Washington. Then the truly imperial phase of America shall begin.

    • PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are some very concerning things we’ve learned since the end of the last administration.

      If that was the basis for calling for Miley to be executed, then Gosar wouldn’t have said shit about Miley being a sodomy and homosexual promoter.

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      • sj_zero ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why wouldn't he? The context isn't a court case where he's trying to get Milley executed, it's a newsletter where he's trying to call Republicans to action donating to them and voting for him. For right-wing multigenerational military families, stuff like the new lgbt military recruitment ads and putting trans women in as high ranking generals and putting them front and center in the media is a big deal.

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• SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Given who’s saying it, it’s almost certainly not true. Additionally, if it was, gosar and trump would not be roasting him for it.

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• Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Also feel the need to mention that hes a politician, so hes probably lying or at least stretching and bending the truth.

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