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the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

There’s a chance he would have died in a hail of gunfire, and probably gotten a lot of innocent bystanders killed as well, and a certainty that if he had survived, he would have gone to jail for the rest of his life. I don’t know what the solution is to the problems my country is facing right now, but I know for a fact that what you’re suggesting is not the solution.

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Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

There’s a chance he would have died in a hail of gunfire,

He did die in a hail of gunfire.

and probably gotten a lot of innocent bystanders killed as well,

Do you support complete disarmament of the police and military? Or is it only with non-state actors that this concern about missed shots outweighs everything else?

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- Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Certainly complete disarmament of ICE. Their job is investigation misdemeanors. There’s fuck all reason for them to be armed at all.
  
  You don’t need a gun to investigate paperwork issues.
  
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  - Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Not what I asked.
    
    I have respect actual pacifists, even if I disagree with them. I don’t have respect for hypocrites who adopt pacifistic stances when it comes to non-state, working class actors but are somehow fine with the state using it.
    
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The solution is working class organizing, with well-trained and disciplined people’s millitias. Pacifism gets people killed, as does adventurism. The only way out of the death spiral is revolution.

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