Comment on Would the United States actually risk a Tiananmen Square incident?

• the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s a chance he would have died in a hail of gunfire, and probably gotten a lot of innocent bystanders killed as well, and a certainty that if he had survived, he would have gone to jail for the rest of his life. I don’t know what the solution is to the problems my country is facing right now, but I know for a fact that what you’re suggesting is not the solution.

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s a chance he would have died in a hail of gunfire,

    He did die in a hail of gunfire.

    and probably gotten a lot of innocent bystanders killed as well,

    Do you support complete disarmament of the police and military? Or is it only with non-state actors that this concern about missed shots outweighs everything else?

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Certainly complete disarmament of ICE. Their job is investigation misdemeanors. There’s fuck all reason for them to be armed at all.

      You don’t need a gun to investigate paperwork issues.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not what I asked.

        I have respect actual pacifists, even if I disagree with them. I don’t have respect for hypocrites who adopt pacifistic stances when it comes to non-state, working class actors but are somehow fine with the state using it.

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The solution is working class organizing, with well-trained and disciplined people’s millitias. Pacifism gets people killed, as does adventurism. The only way out of the death spiral is revolution.

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