Just to add: Ruby Ridge…
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abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Oh my sweet summer child, the United States has had several tiananmen Square style incidents.
Look up the bonus army, Kent state, battle of Blair mountain…
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 4 days ago
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Ruby Ridge was a shootout between a family of paranoid religious whackjobs and the feds after they cocked up handing a guy a warrant, which eventually got taken by what today would be called “Magats” as a rallying cry.
- Bonus army saw 17,000 vets, 26,000 supporters against the US Army and their tanks.
- Kent State was a load of unarmed college kids against The Ohio National Guard.
- Blair Mountain was 10,000 coal minters against The Police, Army, and a Pinkerton Company.
They call make Ruby Ridge look like a bar squabble.
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It’s crazy that you believe that government propaganda from then, but rightfully distrust the government now.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
lemmy.ml is over there.
I literally got information from Wikipedia. The wife believed that the end of the world was nigh. Now I will admit, even back then, you didn’t need to believe the end of the world was nigh to not trust the government. But let’s be frank, ruby ridge was not on the same level as the bonus army, or the battle of Blair mountain, or Kent state.
If you think I shoot out between a conspiratorial family who believed at the end of the world was nigh and group of incompetent cops is equivalent to the battle of Blair mountain, then frankly, I think it’s you that’s fallen for the propaganda.
Semester3383@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yeah, no. The religious nutter part is utterly irrelevant.
What IS relevant is that the ATF entrapped the dude; they wanted him as an informant, so they spent a long time cajoling and threatening him into cutting a shotgun down for them (“short barrel shotgun”, a National Firearms Act of '34 violation), and when he did, they immediately fucked his life. He ended up getting arresting him, he bonded out, and then got multiple differing dates for a court hearing. He didn’t trust the courts because he thought the gov’t was out to get him (spoiler: they were), and so skipped court. The judge issued a warrant improperly, and then the US Marshalls showed up, and everything went downhill.
It was a very, very clear case of entrapment, and what the gov’t did was inexcusable. It doesn’t matter that they wanted him to spy on the Aryan Nations, what they did to try and bend him to their will was evil.
Don’t minimize that shit.
The gov’t can, and will, crush every single person that they can get away with crushing.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
True but… None were THAT bad. The US has done some heinous shit but usually it’s outside of their borders. Inside their borsers, still heinous shit but not as bad as Tiananmen square
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Ffs, the response to the LA Riots in '91 happened two years after Tienamen.
Nevermind the police response to Occupy Wall Street and BLM.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre