The Fascist ideology is an ultranationalist one which the USA is now under Trump and the rest of Europe is at risk to become one too
If you think that any nation-state with the money to implement this shit isn’t doing it already, I have a bridge to sell you.
Surveillance is a matter of power and maintaining it, far more than any ideological thing. There are already people being caught by this sort of shit in the UK and Europe as well.
mrdown@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Those are fascist states too. You can’t make use of this kind of technology and still claim to be the good guys. Fascisms not a left or right thing, both sides of the aisle can slide into that kind of behavior.
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Fascism is in fact a right wing system
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I did some reading, it seems I had a misunderstanding of some of the finer details. Perhaps authoritarian or totalitarianism are better terms? I’m not sure, but regardless, I fail to see how many of the tactics of fascism couldn’t be employed by the political left, which I guess is the point I was originally getting at.
athatet@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
If the left employed fascist tactics then they stop being the left.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Leftism overtly opposes the tools of fascism: sexism, racism, imperialism, nationalism, etc.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
No, it’s in principle undetermined in ideology. Historical ones, even Stalin or Pol Pot variants, were rather right wing. But the only principles really important for any kind of fascism are violence, anti-rationalism and amorphous ideology.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Bruh do some basic research… Here’s a 101:
14 characteristics of fascism
doben@lemmy.wtf 2 months ago
Oh, the historical fascisms such as under Stalin and Pol Pot, right.
Correct in so far, as it‘s determined by economic system. Which happens to align with left/right ideology.
You making shit up depending on how your tummy feels, don‘t you?
Please stop using the internet.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No it’s not entirely clearly defined. But a few elements appear in all of them: Anti- communism/socialism, dictator, far-right idiologies, nationalism…
I wouldn’t say any if these are desired by leftism, or rather opposites.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Yes and “both sides of the aisle” are fascist.
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
BlueDemon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Authoritarianism applies to both sides, and the middle. Fascism is a right wing authoritarian ideology.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Both sides of the aisle are right-wing.