The Fascist ideology is an ultranationalist one which the USA is now under Trump and the rest of Europe is at risk to become one too
If you think that any nation-state with the money to implement this shit isn’t doing it already, I have a bridge to sell you.
Surveillance is a matter of power and maintaining it, far more than any ideological thing. There are already people being caught by this sort of shit in the UK and Europe as well.
mrdown@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Those are fascist states too. You can’t make use of this kind of technology and still claim to be the good guys. Fascisms not a left or right thing, both sides of the aisle can slide into that kind of behavior.
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Fascism is in fact a right wing system
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I did some reading, it seems I had a misunderstanding of some of the finer details. Perhaps authoritarian or totalitarianism are better terms? I’m not sure, but regardless, I fail to see how many of the tactics of fascism couldn’t be employed by the political left, which I guess is the point I was originally getting at.
athatet@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
If the left employed fascist tactics then they stop being the left.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Leftism overtly opposes the tools of fascism: sexism, racism, imperialism, nationalism, etc.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
No, it’s in principle undetermined in ideology. Historical ones, even Stalin or Pol Pot variants, were rather right wing. But the only principles really important for any kind of fascism are violence, anti-rationalism and amorphous ideology.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Bruh do some basic research… Here’s a 101:
14 characteristics of fascism
doben@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Oh, the historical fascisms such as under Stalin and Pol Pot, right.
Correct in so far, as it‘s determined by economic system. Which happens to align with left/right ideology.
You making shit up depending on how your tummy feels, don‘t you?
Please stop using the internet.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No it’s not entirely clearly defined. But a few elements appear in all of them: Anti- communism/socialism, dictator, far-right idiologies, nationalism…
I wouldn’t say any if these are desired by leftism, or rather opposites.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yes and “both sides of the aisle” are fascist.
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
BlueDemon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Authoritarianism applies to both sides, and the middle. Fascism is a right wing authoritarian ideology.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Both sides of the aisle are right-wing.