If you think that any nation-state with the money to implement this shit isn’t doing it already, I have a bridge to sell you.
Surveillance is a matter of power and maintaining it, far more than any ideological thing. There are already people being caught by this sort of shit in the UK and Europe as well.
Those are fascist states too. You can’t make use of this kind of technology and still claim to be the good guys. Fascisms not a left or right thing, both sides of the aisle can slide into that kind of behavior.
I did some reading, it seems I had a misunderstanding of some of the finer details. Perhaps authoritarian or totalitarianism are better terms? I’m not sure, but regardless, I fail to see how many of the tactics of fascism couldn’t be employed by the political left, which I guess is the point I was originally getting at.
No, it’s in principle undetermined in ideology. Historical ones, even Stalin or Pol Pot variants, were rather right wing. But the only principles really important for any kind of fascism are violence, anti-rationalism and amorphous ideology.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
If you think that any nation-state with the money to implement this shit isn’t doing it already, I have a bridge to sell you.
Surveillance is a matter of power and maintaining it, far more than any ideological thing. There are already people being caught by this sort of shit in the UK and Europe as well.
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Those are fascist states too. You can’t make use of this kind of technology and still claim to be the good guys. Fascisms not a left or right thing, both sides of the aisle can slide into that kind of behavior.
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Fascism is in fact a right wing system
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I did some reading, it seems I had a misunderstanding of some of the finer details. Perhaps authoritarian or totalitarianism are better terms? I’m not sure, but regardless, I fail to see how many of the tactics of fascism couldn’t be employed by the political left, which I guess is the point I was originally getting at.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
No, it’s in principle undetermined in ideology. Historical ones, even Stalin or Pol Pot variants, were rather right wing. But the only principles really important for any kind of fascism are violence, anti-rationalism and amorphous ideology.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yes and “both sides of the aisle” are fascist.
BlueDemon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Authoritarianism applies to both sides, and the middle. Fascism is a right wing authoritarian ideology.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Both sides of the aisle are right-wing.
mrdown@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Fascist ideology is an ultranationalist one which the USA is now under Trump and the rest of Europe is at risk to become one too