Comment on "God works in mysterious ways" basically means "this doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm gonna ignore it"

• magnusrufus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think that you are overlooking a lot of things here. If you are God in the traditional modern sense then you would already know how the universe will unfold. You would be gaining nothing by having the “ants” live and suffer. As the creator of the universe you would also have a responsibility for the lives you put in it and you would be responsible if you chose to to intervene in their suffering as well. As the creator it would have been within your power to create a universe without suffering. When we start to consider those points it paints morbid picture. That’s not to attribute that kind of callous cruelty to you, the implications of such a hypothetical are probably not something we’ve spent much time sorting out.

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  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The universe is God’s elaborate game of falling dominoes with added suffering.

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  • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I dunno’ I like to view that part as many do eith their creations. Does a builder not like to see their project standing at the end? Does a programmer not like to see their program work?

    Both should know exactly what will happen (especially the programmer), but there is both satisfaction and a necessity to get it actually running.

    Of course, that’s anthropomorphizing God and projecting, but then that’s 99% of religion, so…

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Of course, that’s anthropomorphizing God and projecting, but then that’s 99% of religion, so…

      We were made in His image, according to the 3 biggest religions. And most take that to mean that, other than the power he wields, he is like us.

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      • Shou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The three biggest religions are based on the same b.s. I’d count the statement as perpetuated by one text that got copied like homework.

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    • magnusrufus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well to borrow a bit from the rest of the threads here, just how much baby cancer is in the builder’s project or the programmer’s code? The difference in perspective between an all powerful all knowing being knowing fully what the entirety of the outcome of their creation vs our speculation of the outcome of our works is probably incomparable. Would there even be a difference between experiencing the spectacle of the universe verses perfectly knowing it as an all knowing being? That might be an interesting philosophical question.

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      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yea definitely. I unironically think that IF there is truth to it, it’s more likely in a perceiving spacetime as easily as we look at a tree or a cloud, but… well, taking such a concept through physics is pretty difficult. There are some fun holographic type of ways to represent spacetime as an object to be played with from the outside, but the math is far beyond me to verify and expand on. It was a TED talk, so the votacity of it might be questionable, too. lol

        So many other ways to represent spacetime don’t make it very obvious how to control things through time as desired or otherwise control time.

        Hell, maybe it’s simply a philisophical statement that humanity will get wise enough to easily predict further and further in to the future, like climate change, and watching the sun’s cycles vs other stars, etc.

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