I can hold out on not buying a new car a hell of a lot longer than the American economy can survive under a tariff regime.
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melfie@lemy.lol 3 weeks ago
I’d sooner buy a Chinese EV than a Tesla, but the orange gameshow host running my country says I can’t.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent - John Maynard Keys
mirshafie@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
I want a fucking Huawei P70. The 10x camera on that thing can practically take stabilized macro photos from a 5 m distance. But Ursula says Orange Man will spank her if she allows competition to Apple and Google.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wouldn’t buy that even if it wasn’t banned, locked bootloader and spyware preinstalled at all levels
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I thought America was a democracy as opposed to China.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
US is the same as China now. Well that’s not true, US foreign policy is way more batshit insane than China’s. If you can even call it a foreign policy… it seems to me it’s just the whims of a deranged old child molester surrounded by fucking Nazis.
And China is further away and there’s pretty much zero probability China will invade my country. With the US, who knows? Kinda stupid to send money to a country I may have to be fighting against within a year.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
there’s pretty much zero probability China will invade my country.
Boots on the ground invasion? Sure, not likely.
But that’s because China long ago realized the wars to be fought in the 21^st^ century are economic… and they’re way ahead.WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Whenever I hear news of China, they built a new electric railway, invented something new, or made massive tech progress.
Whenever I hear of USA on the other hand…
…they are still following the philosoohy of the people who explicitly said they want the human race extinct.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Whenever I hear news of China, they built a new electric railway, invented something new, or made massive tech progress.
A lot of things in China fall apart in a few years. You can build things fast when you don’t care about people’s rights and just force them off whatever land you need, and make people work insane hours. A lot of the amazing things China brags about is a Potemkin village, just made to show the authoritarian leaders they did got the project complete on time and they in turn use it in their propaganda. Authoritarians always love to brag about making the trains run on time, right? The reality is often different from what the media portrays it to be in an authoritarian country.
But still, China is slightly preferable to the US at the moment.
Auth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trump is following in china’s footsteps. His longterm plan will fail because he is not authoritarian enough to retain power. If the CCP were in his shoes they’d have murdered millions of americans to ideologically cleanse the country.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Auth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yeah this is a great example of him not being authorization enough to follow in ccp footsteps. For this to be a proper comparison it would have to be ice murdering 1000s of unarmed protestors not 1.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Using photo-generating AI has become a mixed bag for me.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Many Chinese EVs are made by Tesla
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You’re right. They call them ‘Teslas’ if I remember correctly.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
I assume you’re referring to the fact that Tesla has a Shanghai factory and is exporting Teslas made there to Canada.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I’m guessing so too as I read (albeit I don’t recall where so could have been an unreliable source) that its the other way around - Tesla utilise BYD for some of their cars destined for the Chinese market
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
For Australians (alas, big Teska supporters) and much of the world they are all made in China anyway.
3abas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because Biden said you could? He’s the one that doubled tariffs on Chinese EVs from 50% to 100%. Biden also gave the EV tax credit which was essentially a subsidy to Tesla, which Trump ended.
Note that I’m not defending Trump, but simply noting that the US was heading in his direction. He’s a symptom of advanced disease, but you don’t get to blame him all the shitty things all US presidents ever did. He’s a raging tumor, but the cancer was spreading already.
mirshafie@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
You’re absolutely right. Trump is a lightning rod for rage, but most of what the US is doing is bipartisan. It’s a huge problem that so many people harbor false hope for the controlled opposition.
3abas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People downvoting facts even when they contradict their own stated position tells so much. They want cheap Chinese EVs but can’t accept that what they defended as protecting American companies (Biden’s tariffs) and making EVs more affordable for Americans (Biden’s EV tax credit) are the reasons they can’t have cheap Chinese EVs.
Instead of reflecting on the progranda they’ve been consuming, they downvote and move on to repeat the same nonsense later. I’m relieved they didn’t call me a tankie Russian bot this time for suggesting Biden wasn’t an angel.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Yeah, people responding to my original comment assume I’d prefer Jim Crow Joe. Trump has a more abrasive personality that a lot of people love to hate, but obviously they’re both geriatric puppets to distract everyone while the billionaire cabal continues business as usual.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
JFC…are people this dumb? The first taste is free buddy, these TEMU EVs are being sold below cost just to attack US industry. BYD has a $38B debt propped up by the Chinese government.
You geniuses forgot about the Biden investment in US battery plants.
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Well this is Lemmy, not reddit. We’re all tankies here.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The strongly worded letters opposition?
That’s a joke, right?
lobut@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That is a very fair statement.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Agreed. Not sure what those downvotes are for. I saw this coming 20 years ago. Especially with lobbying as out of control as it has been. If Trump dropped dead now, we’d still have a catastrophe.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Biden increased tariffs…AND invested heavily in battery plants in the US. Trump killed that. Biden’s tariffs were because the Chinese government is dumping in the US to undermine the car industry.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t fault Biden for adding a tariff on Chinese EVs to temporarily protect the American auto manufacturing envornment. We just have too many jobs tied to the domestic production of cars. The immediate loss of those jobs would plunge the USA into deep recession. It looked like this was working too with many American companies adapting and coming out with EVs.
However, most of those American EVs have been scaled back or canceled. Further, with the exception of the Chevy Bolt no domestic maker produced an affordable EV. Since American companies decided they don’t want to play in EVs anymore, I fully support removing the tariff and letting Chinese EVs into the USA. It looks like that will be the only thing that will force American car companies to compete. This situation closely mirrors the 1970s where Japan introduced small, reliable, fuel efficent cars, and affordable cars at a time when gasoline was crazy expensive.
It looks like this time around it will be the Chinese that teach the American auto market to adapt instead.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because the US is a corporatocracy. Red or Blue, corporate donors win.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I liked Jim Crow Joe even less than orange gameshow host. Some of his policies had direct negative effects on my life. Then the election came around and the democrats decided we don’t get a primary at all this time, so we ended up with a choice between an ignorant gameshow host who somehow fancies himself an independent thinker and a cackling hen who puts on no such airs, both of whom are completely loyal to the international billionaire cabal.