None of us want to live in a war-torn state. That’s why I and most others voted for harm reduction. What we’re facing now is terrorism. The USAmerican people are being terrorized by federal forces.
People are not calling for violence for a economic policy we don’t like, which is what the first USA Civil War was fought over. We’re dealing with federal forces who are hell-bent on terrorizing us. What politically-aware people have been calling for, for the better part of a year, is the next degree of harm reduction. Targeted political assassinations. Fighting ICE agents. Storming the capital, perhaps. With each month, this government gets more empowered and more violent.
War is awful. Violence terrorizes people. I have severe C-PTSD from the police response to the BLM riots in 2021, still. I have vivid nightmares, still. I understand, and I felt that when I saw Trump take office. I felt that watched that university student get abducted by ICE at the beginning of this mess. I felt that with every clip out of Minnesota.
We all know war is terrible. No one thinks the USA going through a Civil War will be exciting. People see violence and they want it to stop, and they see massive peaceful movements that have not worked, in the face of a government that shows no hesitation in threatening or attacking its people.
What is the alternative? We let federal agents keep shooting and abducting people until some magical aspect of Democracy manifests and pushes them out? How do we actually envision that happening? What do we do for the three years until our next presidential election? Every person who is killed, abducted, disappeared is a life permanently lost.
For those who talk about peaceful protests and voting the fascists out, how do you expect to win elections when your voters are being killed? It’s not just the ICE agents, either, though they certainly are violent. Consider: Layoffs, Homelessness, Imprisonment, Emigration, Suicide. The people here today are not going to be the same people here in three years.
The reality is, the people of the USA are under violent occupation. We are living the terrors of war. Violence does not require mutual-consent; and when only one side chooses to fight, you end with a massacre. That is what we have been living through – a slow-rolling massacre. No one knows what will stop this, but maybe, just maybe, ICE agents would think twice before going on deployment if half of the last three squads never made it home.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
While I generally agree with everything you’ve said…
This, what we have right now?
The early access alpha preview of what could potentially happen.
Try and imagine an actual artillery strike or JDAM strike on your neighborhood, or, all the water stops working safely due to either a treatment plant getting blown up or intentionally sabotaged and poisoned.
Oh you live in an enemy city, its could this winter, hot this summer?
Click, boom. No more power for ya’ll, have fun.
… it can get so, so much worse than what we are seeing right now.
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
This is all true, to which I ask, what is the alternative? I’m afraid that the future of the USA is one of two options: the authoritative oppression of fascism, or the chaotic hellscape of war. Both are intolerably violent. Fascism is targeted and ruthless; War is broad and destructive.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
Oh I also don’t disagree with the implication(s) of your rhetorical question there.
This is a do or die moment, a hinge point or era of history.
I am just trying to make very clear that… now that we, collectively, have allowed the situation to get to the point it is now at?
Well now, instead of removing a small tumor or two, a bit of chemo maybe… now we’re at stage 4, its likely terminal, and none of the options are good, easy, muchless guaranteed to work.
Changing the situation, solving the problem… is now simply unavoidably going to be extremely costly, in ways that… probably most people who regularly post on internet forums think they understand, think they are or could be ready for… but in reality they likely are not.
Reading about the horrors of a civil war, watching a documentary or movie or reading a book about it, … that’s one thing.
Living it is quite another.
… do you really wanna live forever?
People are gonna actually have to answer that question, at least to themselves, honestly.
And our culture is primarily one of consumerist escapism… so this is going to cause even more existential crises and psychoses than we have seen so far.
We’re gonna see a lot of people’s true colors.
A lot of people simply will not be able to cope, they’ll implode, collapse in on themselves, or maybe explode outwardly.
And then, after that, we’ll have to see how many people are actually any kind of competent and effective, at living, at resisting… after all the toys and treats go away.