its called balkanization. pretty much, the northwest coast will be its own constituition, probably combine or allie with some of the east coast states. its very similar to how CNC3 game lore ended up.
Comment on YSK: A real American Civil war will NOT be like Battlefield or COD.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I think the country splits into multiple nations before a true all out conflict. Maybe a 4 part split.
Old South Northeast Some kind of Texas southern alliance with other states in the Louisiana purchase Northwest and Pacific coast.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 days ago
Chozo@fedia.io 5 days ago
Cyberpunk 2020 (the original tabletop game) kinda predicted that sort of outcome.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
North East, West Coast then what will be globally known as the asscrack right up the middle. Texas will be known as the Purple Star state.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
The problem with this idea is that it assumes that those areas are politically aligned. I highly doubt people in liberal areas like Austin are going to be okay with being lumped in with whatever happens in Texas and I am confident that the Native Americans in Oklahoma will never be okay with it.
The divide in the US is largely rural vs urban not north vs south or east vs west anymore.
Firoaren@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
People tend to migrate during such events, that’s what a refugee is. Restructurings like this often kill more people than they attract, but they do still attract them. And more still get fucked by bad luck. See: literally any country creating event, good or bad.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Yep, exactly.
State borders don’t represent the relevant people groups well at all.
Go look at the greater Idaho movement to see basically exactly what I mean, a decade long drive to break the eastern counties of WA and OR off, and into joining Idaho.
The other huge problem is this:
Cities are generally like islands, need power, water, food, which typically comes from places outside the city.
So you don’t need to even seige them, you just cut the links, and they’ll largely tear themselves apart.
But the flip side of that is that they’re also major logistics hubs and manufacturing centers, by and large… and, most stuff that gets produced outside a city has to go into a or at least near a city at some point before it can actually become something useful, or find an actual market.
So its a kind of … not quite MAD, but almost, more like mutually assured misery.
One thing you can take away is that anyone, in any location during something like this, is going to benefit from being as autarkic and resourceful as they can be, at whatever scale makes sense in a particular situation.
The big superstructures of society basically just break, and you, your buddies, your community, whatever, people with secondary backup plans, alternative economies, largely decoupled systems for providing the bare minimum + a few luxuries, thats what has a better chance of making it through something like this.
Oh, along with that comes: Repair everything, the consumable model of ‘stuff’ is now an insane death trap, not a flex.
Anything complex is unlikely to be easily, wholly replaced… makes a lot more sense to fix up shit, re use and clean up everything that can be reused and cleaned up safely.