Comment on Bluesky just verified ICE

TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If it’s an official govt agency I think it makes sense for them to be allowed on communications platforms and to be verified, so that people can see what they’re saying and know that it’s an official statement.

  Then people can see the post and make their own judgements about it, knowing it’s an official agency statement.
  Having twitter style factcheck for blatant misinformation is also important for this, though.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah, I can see that perspective too, but at the same time it’s Nazi propaganda they’re posting. There aren’t really any good options.

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, but at the same time it’s kinda good for people to be able to see the kind of shit they’re posting for themselves.

      It is propaganda, but it’s not good propaganda, and that’s what the community fact checking thing is meant to counter, imo.

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• andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Personally, I do want a common communication platform for people I despise because I want to be able to keep tabs on their public announcements.

  I do not want to share close proximity to them on a network graph, or regularly engage with their supporters, though. So I agree that federation is crucial. But to be clear, it’s not because I want to ban them from a platform, it’s because I want managed distance and better moderation.

  I don’t mind Bluesky verifying them, but I’m glad that on Mastodon I don’t have to share the same giant server as them.

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• ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They have always been on there. There have been waves of brigading and trolling, etc. BlueSky’s blocking tools and options for no algorithm dramatically limit their visibility, and they eventually have no impact and get bored and eventually go away.

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• KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No, that’s exactly what I thought, and I’m still confused as why this is bad? Do people want baby’s first echo chamber again?

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not hard to understand that people want Nazi ideology to be rejected.

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    • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I do. But… how will that happen if they are not verified…?

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah, I wasn’t the clearest here. I thought they shouldn’t be allowed on there at all, but I’m rethinking it now.

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  • reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    We also want to ensure that conservatives are repeatedly alienated so they build their own networks and never see other points of view! /s

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    • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      But mostly just don’t want to see points of view that we disagree with.

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      • reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Echo chamber in different words

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