Should be clear by now that the US has no allies, only pawns.
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fennesz12@feddit.dk 3 days ago
Danish citizen here. This is really weird. The US have been our allies for decades, but apparently here we are.
I am mostly worried about the people of Greenland in all of this. I’ve met many people from Greenland, and they’re great people.
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 days ago
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
The international landscape doesn’t have friends, only interests.
dass93@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Same here. This situation have really changed my view from mildly wierd country to full blown siako fascist. I would personally more support china thana USA right now.
fennesz12@feddit.dk 3 days ago
Yeah it’s honestly hard to understand for me and come to terms with. Most Americans I know don’t want any part in this either. At least some things do give me hope, Fox News interviewed our foreign minister (Also former prime minister), and… Well I never thought I’d say this about Fox News but… It was actually really sensible and a good interview?
I mean… Even the most Trump fanatical Republican must be experience a bit of an identity crisis by now, surely?
Ghostie@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
They are burying their heads in the sand and not addressing it because that would make them recognize they made a mistake.
fennesz12@feddit.dk 2 days ago
They have to understand that they are more or less allowing Trump to set everything on fire. Every single one of US allies at this point hate him. He has alienated Canada, and all of Europe. He’s destabilizing NATO, and therefore the entire foundation of western democracy and defense. I doubt Australians, the Japanese, or any other established country is particularly fond of him either, or they won’t be, when he sets his sights on them.
Long-term this is a massive shot in the foot. He may be able to throw his weight around in a cage like a gorilla right now, but as allies slowly realize that the US can fundementally no longer be trusted, that cage is going to shrink. In the coming years we will likely see massive military escalation across all non-US western nations, and EU as a whole are already making moves to pull ressources out of the US.
Now that France actually is deployed in Greenland, annexation would mean instigating war with a nation with atomic weapons. Not to mention that the whole exercise is pointless - the US have always had the right to deploy in Greenland, they have always been able to establish a military presence. In fact, if he wants the golden dome there, there is an established procedure he has to follow, which historically hasn’t been a problem.
Denmark has done so much shit for the US through the years. We allowed them to hide nuclear missiles in the ice during project iceworm. They never cleaned up after themselves, and now Greenland has a nuclear hazard. We even forcibly removed a whole people, the entire city of Thule (Uummannaq), because the US wanted a huge fucking base right where they lived. Guess who paid for those reparations 40 years later to compensate the Inuits who had their entire livelihood and home destroyed? Denmark did.
To top it off, there literally is no threat there right now. Not from the Russians. Not from the Chinese. The only threat is Trump. Yes, the Russians are trying to sabotage infrastructure, and the Chinese are trying to make investments. But NATO has pretty much been able to handle that.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago
I sort of think it’s a multi-pronged thing.
I think one of Trump’s advisors floated it for the easy to grasp reasons -
Proximity to the trade lane that’s beginning to open up through the arctic as the polar ice melts, and access to Greenland’s rare earth minerals as a way to not be reliant on China for them.
I also suspect that should the Trump admin ever gain control of Greenland (I don’t believe they would), but they would turn it into a penal colony as they attempt to turn the U.S. into a white ethno-state.
There’s the ego factor. The rest of the world is telling the man-child Trump no, so he’s trying to see if he can get away with it. He’s a psychopath who likes to see if he can enforce his will on others. It’s not even about the actual gains of the action, but about overcoming the objections of others because he’s fragile and weak inside.
And finally - because if the U.S. looks like a credible threat to Europe, that means that Europe will have to invest in meeting that threat, even if the threat never materializes. Resources are finite and that harms Ukraine’s defense. No doubts from me that Trump is getting encouragement from his pal Putin to keep pushing for Greenland.
It is completely fucked, though. No ‘real’ U.S. citizen wants this, either.
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 days ago
Never has mattered, the US is an oligarchy and only their wished matter. Securing those shipping lanes preemptively before attacking China seems logical.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I think there is a lot of pressure from Peter Thiel and his Praxis gang to acquire Greenland so he can have it as their Techno feudal land.