Comment on Do we need more users ?

• IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Look at it from a new user’s perspective; someone who has not curated their feed or otherwise “made the fediverse what they want”. e.g. They land on Lemmy World or another big instance and their default sort is “active”. Doing that now in an incognito window, and half the front page is rage, same on the second, and the rest some random shitposts and Linux.

  Truth be told, looking at that, I probably wouldn’t want to sign up. Especially if I didn’t know that different instances have different cultures, etc.

  Assuming they’re a normie (which we desperately fucking need here), I just don’t see that they’d want to stick around. Aside from trolls and spammers, the only people we seem to consistently attract here are the “Wah wah I was banned from Reddit” types and, while there’s certainly a sizable pool to draw from, I wouldn’t exactly consider them the pick of the litter for growing the fediverse.

  The point of OPs post is that usage here is declining, and I am simply pointing out that I feel all the rage and politics is not particularly inviting.

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  • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We really need better onboarding for new users, maybe ask them about their interests to give them a default set of subscriptions (it would probably just be a tweaked version of the community search page). And default to the subscribed feed, not the All feed

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    • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Isn’t that how Piefed onboarding works?

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      • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yea I think so lol

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  • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rage bait, tiktok/twitter/facebook/Instagram reposts, politics just happen to be what tends to get the most activity across social media. That’s what you see when you view social media without an account whether it is lemmy or popular corporate run sites.

    Its why filter tools, avoiding all, and sticking to subscriptions has been a thing for a long time prior to the reddit third party hammer.

    I don’t know any social media that isn’t explicitly niche focused that isn’t a terrible default experience. And by niche I mean like some old school forum that only talks allows talks of a specific topic like video games.

    Broad appeal talk about whatever topic you want is going to be generally trash by default, since so many different topics and communities are sharing the same space.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Edit: And you know what? I’m just going to fucking say it. There’s too many armchair activists here who won’t let you enjoy a single moment without reminding you that something bad is happening somewhere in the world and that you have some kind of moral obligation to be angry all the time about it. And if you’re not angry all the time then you’re somehow part of the problem.

    Amen.

    I am so sick of being lectured by some weirdo about ‘WHY AREN’T YOU DOING ANYTHING’. It’s nothing more than them projecting their pathetic helpless miserable life onto others. ‘if you dont’ support my this issue than you are a morally bankrupt person!’

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s too many armchair activists here who won’t let you enjoy a single moment without reminding you that something bad is happening somewhere in the world and that you have some kind of moral obligation to be angry all the time about it. And if you’re not angry all the time then you’re somehow part of the problem.

    That’s exactly what i’m complaining about as well. Being angry doesn’t even help. Having a clear head helps, but being angry IMO stands against that.

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• mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I love piefeds default :)

  And as much as I dont like parts of bluesky, they did the onboarding the correct way.

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