There are normally only a few points at which traffic enters the country. Shutting them down will effectively cut you from most of the Internet, and the rest that remains will be fully in the jurisdiction that oppresses you.
Comment on What if the Internet Goes Down? - 15 Jan, 7PM CET
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
The internet will get back up if it goes down. It is very decentralized. DNS is where most of the centralization occurs, and DNS going down is not at all the end of the internet.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
That won’t help for situations where a government shuts down access to the internet.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
How resistant would this be to jamming? Iran managed to black out Starlink.
And how trackable is it? Not sure how many people would be prepared to run one of these boxes if the Revolutionary Guard are going to come knocking.
frozenicecube@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It’s pretty easy to jam as it’s just radio waves. Increase the noise on the channel and the chirps of your msg don’t get heard. That said there are some options to vary the channel as a group, and jamming a broad and robust mesh completely vs an area of nodes is a bit harder.
Trackable as in traceable? You mean finding your node location? By default not overly difficult but again, can be set up to make it hard to find you.
johntash@eviltoast.org 3 weeks ago
Wouldn’t it be pretty easy to track down the source since its just radio?
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Riots fix that, not meshtastic
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Riots are better coordinated when people can communicate wirelessly
A government can shut down a riot of 10,000
It struggles with 10 1,000 person riots.
7101334@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think at that point it’s more of a revolution than a riot, but I agree
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
No doubt, but it really is a temporary solution, but a very good solution since it’s only necessary for a temporary amount of time
DNS@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I didn’t know riots and protests 50+ years ago depended on the internet. Crazy.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
If they shut the Internet and there is a decent meshtastic network they will jam that as well.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is a non answer. yes, hypothetically they can, but the whole point of finding alternative channels is to make it difficult for them to do so, to the point that they might not even try.
That pessimism of “they can jam it anyways” is like saying do not wear a helmet while riding a bike, if you are meant to die that day, you will die regardless of head protection.
Plus, it will take resources for them to jam things, and the more resources they need to do that shit the faster it will deplete them and the less they can do, it is so obvious I do not know how to write it without sounding demeaning.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Maybe so, but incompetence is persistent within fascist organizations, and it adds an extra step.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
It adds a lot of extra risk since each node is a constant radio beacon that is easily trackable.
Compared with handheld radio that broadcast and disappear.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Friend: do not underestimate how much greed the cel companies are capable of. Many have been working on their own satellite setups in preparation and blasting it in everyone’s face lately.