There are normally only a few points at which traffic enters the country. Shutting them down will effectively cut you from most of the Internet, and the rest that remains will be fully in the jurisdiction that oppresses you.
Comment on What if the Internet Goes Down? - 15 Jan, 7PM CET
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The internet will get back up if it goes down. It is very decentralized. DNS is where most of the centralization occurs, and DNS going down is not at all the end of the internet.
Allero@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
That won’t help for situations where a government shuts down access to the internet.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 hours ago
How resistant would this be to jamming? Iran managed to black out Starlink.
And how trackable is it? Not sure how many people would be prepared to run one of these boxes if the Revolutionary Guard are going to come knocking.
frozenicecube@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
It’s pretty easy to jam as it’s just radio waves. Increase the noise on the channel and the chirps of your msg don’t get heard. That said there are some options to vary the channel as a group, and jamming a broad and robust mesh completely vs an area of nodes is a bit harder.
Trackable as in traceable? You mean finding your node location? By default not overly difficult but again, can be set up to make it hard to find you.
johntash@eviltoast.org 11 hours ago
Wouldn’t it be pretty easy to track down the source since its just radio?
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Riots fix that, not meshtastic
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Riots are better coordinated when people can communicate wirelessly
A government can shut down a riot of 10,000
It struggles with 10 1,000 person riots.
7101334@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think at that point it’s more of a revolution than a riot, but I agree
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
No doubt, but it really is a temporary solution, but a very good solution since it’s only necessary for a temporary amount of time
DNS@discuss.online 1 day ago
I didn’t know riots and protests 50+ years ago depended on the internet. Crazy.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
If they shut the Internet and there is a decent meshtastic network they will jam that as well.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is a non answer. yes, hypothetically they can, but the whole point of finding alternative channels is to make it difficult for them to do so, to the point that they might not even try.
That pessimism of “they can jam it anyways” is like saying do not wear a helmet while riding a bike, if you are meant to die that day, you will die regardless of head protection.
Plus, it will take resources for them to jam things, and the more resources they need to do that shit the faster it will deplete them and the less they can do, it is so obvious I do not know how to write it without sounding demeaning.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Maybe so, but incompetence is persistent within fascist organizations, and it adds an extra step.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 hours ago
It adds a lot of extra risk since each node is a constant radio beacon that is easily trackable.
Compared with handheld radio that broadcast and disappear.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Friend: do not underestimate how much greed the cel companies are capable of. Many have been working on their own satellite setups in preparation and blasting it in everyone’s face lately.