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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Lemmy copying Reddit with the downvotes system is something that really frustrates me.

  The downvote button is one of the most toxic things about Reddit. Nobody uses it the way it is supposedly intended to be used.

  Lemmy saw that and thought great, let’s copy.

  I don’t know whether they did it because they wanted to make a straight up Reddit clone, or whether they mistakenly thought Lemmy users would be above that kind of behaviour (lol), but either way it was a mistake IMO.

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  • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yeah I treat the downvote as a way of saying shit content or trolling or whatever. People on here seem to treat it like a disagreement button.

    If you’re not engaging to try and bring people to your point of view then what are you here for cause I’m not here for a circle jerk, I can wank myself off just fine. This place seems like a club no dissimilar to r/conservative but for “our side” and fuck that I’ll hold my people to the same standards as people I don’t agree with. Thats integrity.

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    • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yeah I treat the downvote as a way of saying shit content or trolling or whatever. People on here seem to treat it like a disagreement button.

      I don’t agree there. Not in most cases. Because upvoting and downvoting is public to instance admins and community mods (on comms they moderate) so if you downvote on disagreement a lot, you could find yourself banned from communtiies.

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It’s not the best system, but other alternatives are far more indepth. There does need to be a way to curate content on the site, to organise it organically. Lemmy’s upvoting and downvoting is at least public, mitigating the worst aspects of Reddits system.

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    • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      K/Mbin has a system where upvotes coincide with “Increases”, and downvotes with “Reduces”, separately from the algorithm. People just found it confusing though.

      Emoji reactions may help a bit… except that Lemmy users don’t even see those, much less use instead of voting. And if we added them to the sorting system, them we would just be speed-running exactly the process that Reddit went through.

      Sorry I am not offering real solutions here just further discussion on the topic. Doesn’t PieFed also allow voting to be restricted to subscribers within a community? I feel like that would help a TON at least for drive-by voting from All, although I thought PieFed already offers it, yet I do not know how many communities use it or not.

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      • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Sorry I am not offering real solutions here just further discussion on the topic. Doesn’t PieFed also allow voting to be restricted to subscribers within a community?

        Yes, but that won’t impact lemmy users.

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