At which point you might as well setup a proper left party
Come on, the Your Party debacle showed exactly what happens whenever a ‘proper’ left party is tried. Always infighting and purism abound.
Comment on Zack Polanski open to Labour pact — but only if Starmer goes
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 days ago
This is a stupid sentiment. Starmer isn’t just Starmer. He comes with a whole faction of Starmer loyalists that needs removing as well. At which point you might as well setup a proper left party. Or fold the remaining MPs in the Labour Party into the Greens.
At which point you might as well setup a proper left party
Come on, the Your Party debacle showed exactly what happens whenever a ‘proper’ left party is tried. Always infighting and purism abound.
You couldn’t have picked two people less able to set up the party though.
Same with any party (lots of infighting amongst the conservatives during Johnson’s rein), but the media overreport on the failings of the left, embarassing as they may be
They couldn’t even agree on a name before splintering, it was a joke
Yeah it kinda was
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
That’s basically what he said.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Well exactly. Which is obviously not realistic to say “get rid of your leader plus 70% or more of your party”. So he might as well just recruit the remaining Left leaning MPs into the Greens. In other words there will be no electoral pact in reality because the conditions are absurd.
Wimopy@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Looking at the original article in The Independent, it’s pretty clear he is not at all aiming for a pact with Labour. Only when “pressed” about one did he say explicitly he would consider it but never with current Labour-right… Which as you say is re-stating his stance of wanting to replace, not ally with Labour. It’s a diplomatic “no, we only ally with more like-minded people”.
The title from The Canary feels like it overstates the case, but it is still what Polanski said in the end. It does also more strongly push the idea that Labour going back to the left would be better for them than stating it with the original caveats, so I assume that’s deliberate.