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Comment on When I was a kid, computers expanded your mind and your freedoms, bringing power to the individual. With AI, now it does the thinking for you, takes your job, gives power only to a few billionaires.

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IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I was certainly there and I do… this is from a google search

Key Themes and Examples from the Era

Concerns about automation and job displacement by computers were widely documented, particularly as computer technology became smaller, cheaper, and more integrated into various industries, from manufacturing floors to office settings.

Manufacturing and “Blue-Collar” Jobs: The introduction of computer numerical control (CNC) machinery led to a 24% drop in employment for high school dropouts in the metal manufacturing industry, fueling concerns about job security for skilled factory workers in the “Rust Belt”.
Office and “White-Collar” Jobs: White-collar workers also felt unease. Innovations like the automated teller machine (ATM) threatened bank tellers, while photocopiers were viewed with suspicion by some in publishing. The transition to computers on every desk in the late 70s and early 80s initially led to the firing of secretarial pools, forcing others (often men) to learn typing and computer skills.
Media Coverage and Public Discourse: The topic was covered by major publications.
- In 1965, Time Magazine ran a cover story on “the computer in society,” which included a prediction of shorter workweeks due to automation.
- In the UK, Prime Minister James Callaghan requested a think tank to investigate the potential impact of new technologies on employment.
- The term “job killer computer” was a popular slogan expressing the fear of technological unemployment.

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lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Is this an AI summary

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- IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  …yeah…
  
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  - lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    lol way to prove a point
    
    fucking fuck
    
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    IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Are you under the impression that before ai, there were people prepare search responses?
    
    An automated thing got replaced by an automated thing.
    
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  - chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I overall like AI, but it’s not great for making this type of argument because it doesn’t offer anyone anything they can really use to update their beliefs about what’s true. Any of the factual claims there could be hallucinated, and most are only tangentially relevant to the question of how strong the parallels between the attitude towards computers 50 years ago are to attitudes towards AI now. If someone wants to seriously consider the question, it isn’t useful.
    
    A better way to do it is to use it like a search engine to find relevant citeable information and then make your own case for its relevance. Or maybe in this case just some personal anecdotes would work pretty well, you’re claiming personal experience as your main source here and I kind of wanted to hear more about it.
    
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Hackworth@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

This discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality. - Plato on the invention of writing in The Phaedrus

Every notable invention associated with language (and communication in general) has elicited similar reactions. And I don’t think Plato is wholly wrong, here. With each level of abstraction from the oral tradition, the social landscape of meaning is further externalized. But that doesn’t mean the personal landscape of meaning must be. AI only does the thinking for you if that’s what you use it for.

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- aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I see these thought-terminating cliches everywhere, and nowhere do its posters pause a moment to consider the specifics of the actual technology involved. The people forewarning about this stuff were correct about, for instance, social media, but who cares because Plato wasn’t a fan of writing, we rode on horses before cars, or the term Luddite exists…etc. etc.
  
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  - Hackworth@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I talked about the way in which Plato’s concerns were valid and expressed similar fears about misuse. The linked article is about how to approach the specific technology.
    
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    aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    You didn’t say his concerns were valid. You said you thought he was not “wholly wrong”. Regardless, Plato being a crank about writing proves only that cranks existed before writing. It does nothing to help you interrogate, nor help set you down the path to interrogate the questions asked.
    
    Your referenced article is basically a long-form version of your post, which has a perceivable bias toward the viewpoint that every newly-introduced technology can or will inevitably result in “progress” for humanity as a whole regardless of the methods of implementation or the incentives in the technology itself.
    
    Far from being an instance of skub (pbfcomics.com/comics/skub/) as this perspective indirectly implies that it is (i.e. an agnostic technology / inanimate object that “two sides” are getting emotionally charged about), LLMs (and their “agentic” offspring) are both deliberately and unwittingly programmed to be biased. There are real concerns to be discussed about this technology that posting a quote from an ancient tome do not cover.
    
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6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’ll tell ChatGPT to analyze your prompt. Can you give me a summary in the meantime?

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