point? this is about the US. an active terrorist state. other states can be bad too. in fact they all are. but your comment serves to distract from and therefore protect the US. why?
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ah, the pot calling the kettle black again.
flandish@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Saapas@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Random Lemmy comments, the first line of defence for the US lol
Eldritch@piefed.world 1 month ago
Hey now. No reason to start behaving like tankies/ML. If it’s valid for the West to criticize them for their faults. (It is) Then, turn about is just as valid. Even if the criticism comes from a place of hypocrisy like this.
If anything, this should just be a reminder that no state is your ally or a responsible actor. And that the more power and concentration they have, like the United States, Russia, or China. The more brazenly they will abuse the people they’re supposed to represent and everyone around them.
mattyroses@lemmygrad.ml 1 month ago
US once again breaks international law and invades another nation.
You - “hey guys, let’s not get all tankie and start saying the US is bad without falsely equating China!”
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was in no way trying to imply that the pot and the kettle aren’t both black. That’s the whole point of the expression.
mattyroses@lemmygrad.ml 1 month ago
Who did China invade again?
Eldritch@piefed.world 1 month ago
I know, and that’s why I didn’t down vote you. It’s just not really useful here. The United States calls out China all the time for its imperialism, oppression and abuses. And inevitably ML fall back to United States/West Bad. To defang any criticism. It’s not valid or appropriate when they do it. And it’s not when we do it either. Even when done with appropriate nuance as you did.
This is something that the United States is absolutely going to have to own. The criticism is 100% deserved and doesn’t need any defense or deflection like that. Unless of course, they are openly saying that they are better than the United States or the West. Then it would be absolutely appropriate. If it weren’t for hypocritical criticism, there wouldn’t be hardly be any criticism.
Mihies@programming.dev 1 month ago
China, whatever it is, doesn’t wage direct wars abroad and kidnap random presidents. Well, for now, at least. But seeing there is no accountability, they will certainly consider it much more seriously.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They’re openly threatening to invade another country and they’re in a hybrid war with almost all their neighbours. Plus, they’ve been enabling the Russian war in Ukraine from day one. They’re not in a position to be starting wars just yet but it’s certainly not for lack of trying. And you can ask the Uighurs the Tibetans, the Mongols and a lot of others what they think about this.
grte@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
en.wikipedia.org/…/Timeline_of_United_States_mili…
en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_wars_involving_the_Peo…
I invite people to compare these two pages.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
You see, it is possible to resent both countries’ ambitions on other nations and global hegemony. You dont have to whatabout when someone points out that China is no saint either.
What are you even hoping to achieve here? Make the reader say “oh well, guess what China does is okay then”?
Maeve@kbin.earth 1 month ago
Ohh, the rich who were monetarily affected by Chinese policies that made the field more level and then tell tall tells as CIA prefers.
Here's another perspective, if you can bother: https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It is just a threat right now so mihies is right for now
chloroken@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
You. First one to the gulag.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Definitely. And our tankie friends here will be happy to volunteer as guards.