I’m right there with you on this one. I’ve literally shared a toilet my entire life with a large family, dozens of roommates over the years, etc and I’ve literally never once had somebody get after me for how the seat was left, nor have I even thought about the position of the seat before automatically setting it how I need before I go. I mean I get moving the lid down for sanitary reasons but just the seat down or up? Why’s it my job to predict who’s using the pot next and how they’ll want the seat configured? Should I prepare and deliver them wads of toilet paper too? Roll out a red carpet? Here’s what I’ll do, Imma put the whole fucken lid down, and then they can do whatever the hell they want when they get in there.
MudMan@fedia.io 11 hours ago
Why is this a debate? I'm always confused by this one and how everybody assumes it's a huge argument. Why are people annoyed at either? I don't even register what state the toilet seat is at when I arrive. I'll just adjust it based on whatever it is I need. What is the supposed annoyance at lowering (or raising) the seat? Is that not what you do before doing your business regardless? Don't you mostly leave the whole lid down anyway? Why is this such a cliche? I do not get it.
0ops@piefed.zip 10 hours ago
MudMan@fedia.io 9 hours ago
Yeah, with a semi-large household there's a fairly even chance of anybody needing or wanting any sort of configuration on the toilet. But mostly you just... you know, put the whole lid down. For one so you don't spray your poop all over when you flush, for another because it... you know, looks nice.
I get wiping the edge if you're a peer-stander-upper. I get making sure there's paper left. I get cleaning the bowl (which Americans don't get because they poo in swimming pools, as it turns out). I don't get the argument about the toilet seat position specfiically.
Incidentally, I used to think the argument was about dudes not putting the seat up to pee and spraying their stuff all over the seat, plus the mist then leaking under and drying at the bottom, so if you don't wipe after yourself it ends up getting all crusty under there. For the longest time I assumed the argument was that people were mad at dudes peeing witht he seat down, and only later realized that's apparently not what people are mad about?
bluGill@fedia.io 11 hours ago
Some people care. Those who don't should just respect them by always leaving it down. Understanding isn't asked for, just respect
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 10 hours ago
Or, be an adult and adjust it as you need.
Hawke@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Happy (urinal?) cake day!
MudMan@fedia.io 10 hours ago
They care about what? What do these people want to happen that is not happening and why?
This is a conversation I've literally never had about an issue I've never heard being an issue outside of that one joke in The Big Lebowski and other US media. I genuinely don't know what sort of cultural or personal context this "caring" is supposed to be about.
Hawke@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Some people care. Those who don’t should just respect them by always leaving it up. Understanding isn’t asked for, just respect.
I say this as someone who sits down to pee: adjust it according to your own desires. Recognize that if you sit down on an open toilet that’s on you for not checking, just like if you sit (or pee!) on a closed lid. It’s not someone else’s fault.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 8 hours ago
Why are people annoyed at either?
Gender power dynamics.
MudMan@fedia.io 8 hours ago
You guys keep coming back with glib answers meant to comment on the question, and you're missing the point.
I genuinely don't know what the complaint is. I need someone to tell me that it's about people finding it gross to be within 30 cm of something previously exposed to a naked butt cheek for cultural reasons or something. I genuinely don't get it. Like, in practical terms. It's not a rhetorical question.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
It’s like… Opening the silverware drawer when you get a spoon out for a snack and not closing it. It’s a basic level of tidying up after yourself.
MudMan@fedia.io 3 hours ago
Oh, so there literally is no practical reason? Just pure aesthetics, OCD-ish stuff?
So does that extend to the lid and people just say "toilet seat" as a catch-all or is there a specifically cultural predilection for the seat down/lid up configuration? Because that one looks messy to me. If the goal is for the toilet/bathroom to look tidy surely the lid down is a must, right?