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• ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My man, we will never agree because I am fundamentally a monotheist and your deity is a man. Act good deeds and I’ll act good deeds and maybe we’ll argue in the afterlife. 👋

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I am fundamentally a monotheist

    I am also a monotheist.

    Act good deeds and I’ll act good deeds and maybe we’ll argue in the afterlife.

    This is a lie from the devil. You can never be good enough for Paradise by your own works. Your works cannot save you. Every good work you do is something you should have been doing anyway - in fact, if you neglect to do a good work when you had an opportunity, that is a sin. Therefore, a good work cannot cancel out your sin. That’s like trying to get out of a fine for running a red traffic light because “I usually stop at red lights”. Or trying to get out of a speeding fine because “99% of the time, I go the speed limit”. Or for theft because “most of the time, I don’t steal. I pay for my products”. Sin cannot go unpunished.

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    • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s a lie by Paul only eaten up by those who don’t feel like having personal responsibility, it just pushes you to have “faith without deeds” and makes your actual decisions made by free will, the only thing you’ll be judged on (you’ve read the Sermon on the Mount, come on), inconsequential. Also, a belief in a very cruel God which, seing how he made this whole universe and us for free, is kind of nonsensical. This is the basis of all Western and finally American forms of Trinitarian belief: what I think and what I say and do are fundamentally different and they can be, my belief is a coverup.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If God doesn’t punish sin, then he isn’t just, is imperfect and not God at all. You will be judged on your acts, yes. But your acts cannot save you. Jesus even said “I am The Way, The Truth and The Life, nobody gets to The Father except through Me” “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’”

        This is the basis of all Western and finally American forms of Trinitarian belief

        The Trinity isn’t a western belief. It is believed by Christians in Russia, China, Africa, Europe and the Americas. It is a Christian belief. Jesus was the first to lay out the Trinity - that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all under one Name.

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