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If God doesn’t punish sin, then he isn’t just, is imperfect and not God at all. You will be judged on your acts, yes. But your acts cannot save you. Jesus even said “I am The Way, The Truth and The Life, nobody gets to The Father except through Me” “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’”

This is the basis of all Western and finally American forms of Trinitarian belief

The Trinity isn’t a western belief. It is believed by Christians in Russia, China, Africa, Europe and the Americas. It is a Christian belief. Jesus was the first to lay out the Trinity - that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all under one Name.

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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
What do you think ROMAN Catholicism is? 🤔 It certainly isn’t Judaism/Abrahamic monotheism, the law and the prophets that Jesus followed, but its own thing. And if 1 = 3, what kind of lies can’t be built on top of that?

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- Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity. They believe the Bishop of Rome is a supreme pontiff over the Church. The Trinity is accepted in Protestantism, and also in the Eastern churches (Greek, Russian, Oriental, Coptic Orthodox, etc)
  
  The Prophet Isaiah wrote of a Child who will be called “Almighty God”.
  
  Isaiah 9:6-7
  
  For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this.
  
  Jesus also claimed to be YHWH that Isaiah wrote about:
  
  Isaiah 44:6-8
  
  Thus says the LORD(YHWH), the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD(YHWH) of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god. Who is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and set it before me, since I appointed an ancient people. Let them declare what is to come, and what will happen. Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are my witnesses! Is there a God besides me? There is no Rock; I know not any.”
  
  Revelation 22:12-13
  
  “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
  
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  - ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I appreciate the effort because at the very least it shows you believe in something, which is rare in some parts of the world and certainly on Lemmy… but it’s not a dumbing down, it’s literally what it is. And any Trinitarian variant comes from the same Roman core, let’s not split hairs here, it literally started being dogma after the Council of Nicea, prompted and led by Constantine, the Roman emperor! It’s quite literally imperialistic appropriation. Regardless, it makes no sense and it never will. And belief in the unseen necessarily has no evidence to support it, but by itself, Trinitarianism is not internally consistent, things don’t follow nor fit.
    
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    Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The Council of Nicæa was in modern-day Türkiye, not Rome. Jesus preached that He is God and that the consciousness of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said “In the Name (singular) of The Father, and of The Son, and of The Holy Spirit”. The Old Testament also has Christophanies- where God appears as a man, like He did to Abraham.
    
    Genesis 18:1-5
    
    And the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat at the door of his tent in the heat of the day. He lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing in front of him. When he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth and said, “O Lord, if I have found favor in your sight, do not pass by your servant. Let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree, while I bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh yourselves, and after that you may pass on⁠—since you have come to your servant.” So they said, “Do as you have said.”
    
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