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every time I see people(?) crowing about how amazing AI is

You’re correct that there’s a massive flood of bots pushing it everywhere. But regardless of what the subject is, once someone has “bought in” to a scam they tend to stick with it and defend it no matter what. Because the alternative is admitting they were fooled, and that’s basically an uncrossable bridge for most folks.

People on their literal death beds were using their literal last words (before being intubated with covid) to threaten nurses not to go near them with “the jab”. So it really doesn’t surprise me that people continue using “AI” despite it being worse than worthless for literally everything

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seathru@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
― Carl Sagan

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JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

people continue using “AI” despite it being worse than worthless for literally everything

On the contrary, AI’s been extraordinarily useful for me this year. BUT– I try my best to understand its ins and outs… i.e., where it’s most accurate, and when it’s most prone to hallucinating confidently incorrect replies.

Pretty much any tool has a narrow range of uses, and is useless for everything else. So it kinda makes sense to me that a ‘do all’ tool would naturally have plenty of flaws in its early stages.

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- Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Yeah we’re 3 years past where the scam artists claimed this shit will have already evolved out of its early stages. It ain’t happening.
  
  It takes no effort at all to understand the ins and outs btw. It’s “accurate” for the most abundantly well documented problems you used to solve in half the time by just copy/pasting from stack overflow. The rest of the time it contradicts the advice your mom’s doctor gave her. Sooooo useful wow. But sure shoot your shot, I’d love to hear about how you used it to build a grocery list app or whatever you’re so excited about
  
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  - JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Huh, well aren’t you absolutely dripping with cynicism.
    
    Anyway, GPT5.1 and 5.2 have been hugely useful to me across a variety of topics, mainly functioning as a sort of enhanced search engine. For example, loads of searches would take me a lot of time to fully explore the various nuances of that GPT can typically pull together in a coherent way in only seconds.
    
    Probably the most use of all is in helping with my issues that come from learning French, but it’s also helped me with graphics tasks that would have taken me ages in GIMP, helped ID various unknown animals, helped with stats analysis in sports, and easily two dozen other things I’ve needed help with in the past year.
    
    So you can hang on to your sourpuss attitude all you like, while I reap the growing number of benefits AI has offered me. And no– that doesn’t mean I love AI or don’t see its very real dangers down the road to human workforces. That stuff I’m indeed very concerned about in the late-stage capitalist reality we live in.
    
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    SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I noticed that Gemini 3, GPT-5.1+, and Claude 4.5 all hallucinate at a level that is equal to sifting through crap on Stack Ovetflow to find a solution that fits.
    
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    Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Okay so this time it’s “I like to fuck around with irrelevant sports statistics and I’m really excited to eventually humiliate myself the first time I try my French with a native speaker”
    
    Listen. Thanks for sharing. I genuinely mean that btw I’m aware I’m being abrasive but you’re putting out your perspective in good faith and I appreciate that. That being said I obviously strongly disagree with any of what you’ve listed being a “benefit”, and I especially caution you against considering SlopGPT to be a “nuanced” source of information for your search queries.
    
    There is a difference between believing you have benefitted and actually benefitting. It’s astonishing to me that you would be concerned about the capitalists yet trust them so adamantly in this moment to manage your very relationship with information. Regardless, I hope you have a happy and safe new year. Cheers
    
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salacious_coaster@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Yeah, that’s probably the case. But hell, the bots are working. They got me second-guessing myself and wondering if I just haven’t seen the “good” AI that the elites are keeping for themselves.

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