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Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 day agoOkay so this time it’s “I like to fuck around with irrelevant sports statistics and I’m really excited to eventually humiliate myself the first time I try my French with a native speaker”
Listen. Thanks for sharing. I genuinely mean that btw I’m aware I’m being abrasive but you’re putting out your perspective in good faith and I appreciate that. That being said I obviously strongly disagree with any of what you’ve listed being a “benefit”, and I especially caution you against considering SlopGPT to be a “nuanced” source of information for your search queries.
There is a difference between believing you have benefitted and actually benefitting. It’s astonishing to me that you would be concerned about the capitalists yet trust them so adamantly in this moment to manage your very relationship with information. Regardless, I hope you have a happy and safe new year. Cheers
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 day ago
That simply isn’t the case, whether or not you choose to believe it, or tot it up on the massive axe you obviously have to grind in these matters. For whatever reasons, you’re choosing to lump me in to a group of people I never belonged to in the first place, which is a -you- problem, and not mine.
And no, GPT is certainly not my primary learning aid upon French. In fact, it’s one of about half a dozen tools I use, which I’m constantly cross-checking against each other for accuracy, forming an overall highly-useful ‘teacher’ of sorts. So when you lead with that pedantic little bit of fluff, what you’re really telling me is that you have no idea what you’re talking about. You seem to see these things in highly binary terms, once again a “you” problem.
Yeah sure, bonne année and cheers, mate.
Carnelian@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I’m sorry, you literally openly praised Scam Altman’s product as a massively superior option to web searching yes? Highly nuanced, saves you a ton of time, remember? And your response to the most obvious flaw with this use case is to deny you are affected by the problem in any way and to deflect the topic onto my attitude?
You genuinely remind me of my late uncle who snapped at us every time we told him to quit smoking. He was so convinced it wouldn’t catch up to him, had a hundred justifications. I’ll never forget the way his young daughter cried at the funeral. And before you and your “AI enhanced workflow” get into a whole thing about how cigarettes are different from computer programs, I’m not calling ChatGPT a Marlborough Red, I’m calling you bull headed. I could have just said as much, but as you’ve noticed, I like my fluff.
Anyway, I love how on the one point you addressed, your actual argument shifts from “it’s incredibly beneficial” to “it’s merely an insignificant fraction of my workflow!” Like, notice how your literal first instinct isn’t to defend the usefulness of chatgpt in this instance but to defend the integrity of your French by assuring me you are using legitimate sources as well.
This is the same pattern all AI victims I’ve spoken with have fallen into. It begins with “oh it saves me so much time it’s so useful!” Then as we interrogate how it’s useful to them it turns out all it does is waste their time with a bunch of bullshit they need to verify when they could have just gone directly to the source they use to verify in the first place.
That is if they even bother to verify, btw. But I honestly don’t know which direction is worse. A huge issue is the ones who “verify” are then always completely convinced that they have verified everything correctly. You can imagine the dangers of this mentality