Comment on Greece, Italy and France ignore ICC warrant as Netanyahu flies through airspace for Trump talks
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What were they supposed to do? Scramble jets and intercept/ force a landing?
Surely shooting them down if they haven’t faced a trial can’t be protocol, as a U.S. citizen that would be like blowing up boats and claiming they have drugs on them and now letting the people stand trial
What were they supposed to do? Scramble jets and intercept/ force a landing?
YES!
Surely shooting them down if they haven’t faced a trial can’t be protocol, as a U.S. citizen that would be like blowing up boats and claiming they have drugs on them and not letting the people stand trial
Your comparison is bullshit and you should feel bad. The essential difference is that the US Navy isn’t even trying to give the falsely-accused fisherman a chance to surrender and stand trial.
I absolutely unequivocally don’t feel bad. It’s due process, and if you wave that right then you should be in prison for anything anytime period. You should feel like a niave fool
yes. laws are laws.
Surely shooting them down if they haven’t faced a trial can’t be protocol
That absolutely is protocol when an aircraft invades your airspace and refuses to turn around or land when intercepted. It’s happened before, and depending on the country, sometimes they don’t give the intercepted aircraft a warning before they open fire. Sometimes they even fire warning shots, but the interloper doesn’t see them.
That happened more than once with Korean civilian airliners that strayed into the USSR.
“Civilian Aircraft (Article 3 bis): Adopted in 1984, this amendment to the Chicago Convention requires all states to refrain from using weapons against civil aircraft in flight. Safety of passengers must not be endangered, and in cases of interception, the lives of those on board must be protected.”
Unless the plane was a military threat, shooting them down would be considered illegal internationally.
Not intercepting the PMs plane and arresting him for the ICC warrant is also illegal under international law. Israel can’t legally occupy the settlements that they do, that’s a violation of international law. They can’t bomb refugee camps, that’s a violation of international law. They can’t starve Palestinians intentionally, that’s against international law. They can’t refuse medical help to injured civilians or Hamas fighters who cannot fight anymore, that’s against international law.
I’m assuming, as somebody quoting some random treaty to me, that you’re a liberal who views laws and legality as the order that holds our world together. It must come as a real shock to you that no state actually gives a shit about what’s legal, they only care about what they can get away with. Unless you can force your government to abide by a law, they can do whatever the fuck they want. That’s the neat thing about laws, they don’t mean shit unless the government in question decides to abide by them.
So your thought is Greece who made agreemennts with Israel is going to fly U.S. made jets to arrest someone that the U.S. doesn’t want arrested, to answer to a court that the U.S. also doesn’t recognize. We knew Greece wouldn’t do it. Would have to be another country
The answer is:
Be a black guy in the states ignoring an arrest warrant and have the cops know when and where you’ll be.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You intercept any unauthorised aircraft flying over your airspace using a fighter jet, force them to land. If they don’t land, you can shoot them legally because they’re in your airspace.
That’s like how America can legally shoot a Chinese balloon flying in their airspace.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah I agree they should have, but clearly they didn’t.