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SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Simone reminds me of the class perspective: musicians here behave like atomized small owners, caught in their enterprecarity, who (legitimately) ask for some defense of their property rights, attacked both by hackers and by the big monopolists of platforms and AI. Because from these property rights, in this case IP, comes a rent, and from this rent, independent artists and label owners try to make a living. Again, right or wrong, this is what’s happening.

I remember reading somewhere that independent artists make basically no money from Spotify.

Is that still true, or have creators found a way to claw back value from the platform, and that’s why they’re defending it?

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Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Spotify performs as one of the worst when it comes to creator royalties and appropriate pay.

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It’s not THE worst, and these numbers have shifted since 2022. The general sentiment (that Spotify stiffs artists) is still shared by the general community.

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- verdi@feddit.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This plot is complete BS, Deezer pays double than spotify.
  
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  - Waryle@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    And one of the highest payers, Qobuz, is missing
    
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- kboy101222@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’m always surprised that Deezer is still around. Who on earth is still using it?
  
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  - MisterMoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    I use Deezer. After Spotify started subsidizing Rogan, it was the only service that had a reasonably Spotify-like UI. Apple Music was absolutely horrible, especially for someone who already has a local library.
    
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  - Kirca@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I used Deezer up until last month, seemed fine to me
    
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- cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This graph is weird. Soundcloud looks like it pays more according to it, but it needs to swap positions with Spotify.
  
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- Tim_Bisley@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  What’s up with soundlcouds position in that chart?
  
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chobeat@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I think the point is more general about profiting from “renting” their music rather than from their labor. The fact that Spotify gives them peanuts make their position even more miserable.

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A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

who (legitimately) ask for some defense of their property rights, attacked both by hackers and by the big monopolists of platforms and AI

This does not sound like they’re defending Spotify.

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