In the world of AI vibe coding, I don’t think so, they will push people even more towards web apps I think
Comment on Dell and Lenovo may limit mid-range laptops to 8GB DDR5 RAM in response to rising memory prices
Pika@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Maybe this will be a boon. The entire reason the ram requirements got so high as it is is because devs got lazy and stopped optimizing stuff. Maybe a ram shortage where people can’t obtain the ram needed will force the big name software devs to start being more frugal with ram. (talking to you chrome… whom currently is using 2 gigs alone just trying to show a twitch stream…)
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
kieron115@startrek.website 19 hours ago
At least one studio, Larian, has confirmed this is the case for them. thegamer.com/larian-divinity-development-changed-…
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Good fuck studios just throwing optimization into the bin cause they can. They should fucking actually do some problem solving instead of brute forcing everything.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
How do you take that from the comment above?
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 7 hours ago
Not the person you’re responding to, but “most likely, we already need to do a lot of optimization work in early access that we didn’t necessarily want to do at that point” indicates to me that optimization was not a top priority. It’s not unusual for people to optimize after a proof of concept or something, but I imagine in gaming (I don’t do game dev admittedly) you don’t want that too late in the process. If they’re not planning on having it in early access, then their early consistent user base will be more worried about other things. If min spec is 8 then people with 4 won’t get it or won’t complain about poor performance because technically it’s their machine that’s the issue. Lack of complaints about that and feedback about other things further shifts the priority away from optimization. Plus, anyone who’s worked in dev spaces or probably any kind of deliverable knows that there are things that just don’t happen despite your best intentions. Things like optimization are the first to go in the dev space, so by openly admitting to putting it off, it does feel like an admission of “we were probably just not going to get around to it”. In my experience, the further out you plan to optimize, the more man hours you end up wasting, so I don’t see a company investing heavily in that at any point, but doing so post early launch seems wasteful if they legitimately cared about it.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 14 hours ago
Tried that yesterday, 2.6 GB for just that one tab playing a twitch stream. That’s honestly impressive.
Lawnman23@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Keeping it positive, nice.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 20 hours ago
Or more realistically be used as an excuse for always online cloud based services a la office 365. “We would let you download the app, but most users don’t have the computing power so instead we’ll just make this a helpful subscription!”
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
That would still pressure the browser teams to work on memory optimizations.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 13 hours ago
Oh fucking hell…
CCMan1701A@startrek.website 17 hours ago
Idk, trying to load up a couple spreadsheets in Edge is going to consume 8gb of Ram in no time.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
“Oh don’t worry, you won’t have to actually load spreadsheets anymore, just give our AI full access to your files and it will do whatever you ask :)”
Ideally, you’re correct though and companies start investing in optimization. I don’t see it going that way, but a girl can dream.
tal@lemmy.today 17 hours ago
Honestly, it’ll be more efficient to have memory in a datacenter in that hardware in a datacenter will see higher average capacity utilization, but it’s gonna drive up datacenter prices too.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Not sure I agree. Centralizing storage, and especially memory, creates incredible round trip costs.
tal@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
I mean, efficient in terms of memory utilization, like. Obviously there are gonna be associated costs with having remote compute.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
But imagine the latency and network bandwidth issues, there’s a reason most companies moved away from the huge central framework model to distributed computing
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
As a dirty commie, I agree, but unfortunately under capitalism it is just an avenue for exploitation. Large companies are deciding what we can or cannot have access to and setting the price for it in a manner completely divorced from what they’re offering.