Comment on Indie Game Awards Disqualifies Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Due To Gen AI Usage
seathru@quokk.au 1 day agoIf you do that and proceed to say “No we didn’t use any AI tools”. Then yes, that should be a disqualification.
“When it was submitted for consideration, representatives of Sandfall Interactive agreed that no gen AI was used in the development of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.”
That’s fair.
But the Game Awards should reconsider that label next year. The connotation is clearly “AI Slop,” and that just doesn’t fit for stuff like cursor code completion, or the few textures E33 used.
Otherwise studios are just going to lie. If they don’t, GA will be devoid of bigger projects.
…I don’t know what the threshold for an “AI Slop” game should be through. It’s clearly not E33. But you don’t want a slimey, heavily marketed game worming its way in, either.
You have to draw the line somewhere, saying any game cant use AI is much simpler than an arbitrary definition of what slop is. Also means we reward real artistry everytime.
Then you’re going to get no games.
Or just get devs lying about using cursor or whatever when they code.
How have we all forgotten that games were made perfectly fine for decades without AI? Better games even.
I'd rather give an award to a "worse" game that didnt use AI, than to a game that did.
Devs can lie, but the truth always comes out eventually.
Awards like these are inherently subjective. You don’t have to draw an objective line anywhere.
By this logic you could also ban Photoshop, tablets and any other software or hardware tool that has improved accessibility and workflow over the years.
AI is a tool, flat out banning it won’t and can’t work. It’s too fucking useful.
People said that anyone who used Photoshop wasn’t a real artist, people said computer graphics weren’t real art.
At some point you DO have to draw an arbitrary line. Because that’s all. Art is arbitrary all of it since the dawn of mankind making art. It’s all arbitrary. If you only make hard lines that completely block tools, all you’re doing is harming artists.
The entire point of drawing arbitrary lines is to allow for artists to keep making art. Why dissuading people from abusing others.
So do you want no one to be able to do anything or do you want things to actually have artistic expression which is arbitrary.
At some point you DO have to draw an arbitrary line. Because that’s all. Art is arbitrary all of it since the dawn of mankind making art.
My arbitrary line is that AI is cringe.
No, that's not the same thing in the slightest.
I’d have no problem with the show that seems to want the awards be taken seriously remove all or most bigger projects.
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
It’s highly likely that EVERY video game dev team has at least one person who is using cursor, whether it violates their AI policy or not. It’s massively popular, looks just like VSCode, and can be hard to detect.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
You don’t even need to use cursor. All the major IDEs are including LLMs nowadays to help with code completion a d code generation. There’s zero chance no gen ai code is in any project that has more than a few people nowadays.
PapstJL4U@lemmy.world [bot] 7 hours ago
The question is, if having better for-loop completion the same as “create this feature”.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Doesn’t matter, the rules ban all AI. The rules are stupid.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
^ The olympic steroids user telling me I can’t prove they used steroids.
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
You can’t reliably detect all steroids. The Olympics has a long history of under detecting novel steroids. A lot of sporting competitions below the Olympics level have a tendency to undertest as well and underdetect. You could have a long and successful career as an athlete from doping.