Doing so reduced the amount of diversity in rendering engines
It killed the last proprietary engine. It made the web more free.
That’s a loss for the Web as a whole.
You’re wrong.
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nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 day agoI disagree. Doing so reduced the amount of diversity in rendering engines and reinforced the idea that lazy site owners don’t have to test against more than one browser. That’s a loss for the Web as a whole.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
He made a good overall point. Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
Link@rentadrunk.org 1 day ago
What about WebKit? That makes 3 browser engines although it’s primarily used on Apple devices.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
What about WebKit? That makes 3 browser engines although it’s primarily used on Apple devices.
WebKit-GTK is fine, Ladybird and Servo also exist.
The vehement defense of a shitty, proprietary Microsoft browser here is astonishing.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
Gecko and Chromium are both fully free software. Old Edge isn’t.
He made a good overall point.
No. It was a very weak defense of proprietary software.
Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
Just saying that doesn’t make it wrong but the “argument” is wrong.
Mondez@lemdro.id 1 day ago
Less diversity isn’t good, the argument wasn’t in favour of proprietary software, it was against platform monoculture.
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Microsoft: Kills crappy, insecure browser no one used and everyone hated.
Lemmy: BAD!
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
And now they moved to another crappy engine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what changed? Nothing much, except that they are locked in with Google’s bs.
shalafi@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Nothing changed going from IE Edge to Chromium Edge. Say that with a straight face next time.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
At the time people welcomed it; Trident really was terrible. However, since then Gecko’s marketshare has fallen into the single digits on account of Mozilla’s terrible governance. WebKit isn’t exactly a big alternative, either (and is often regarded as the new Trident in terms of web standard adherence). Opera used to have Presto but nope, that’s also Chromium now.
That means we’re now stuck in a situation where an advertising company controls how the web works for 75% of all users. And they’re happily abusing that power.
I’m rooting for Servo and Ladybird as new entrants into the market but both are small projects trying to challenge a multi-billion dollar industry titan who wants the web to be as complex as possible so that only they and their token competitors can exist.
We might actually have been better off with Microsoft trying to keep Trident relevant.