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FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 days agoWhy do you say that tech savvy people are "most opposed to AI?" Don't conflate "the membership of this small social media bubble called 'technology'" with tech-savvy people in general. Lots of tech savvy people are developing and using AI, where else do you think it's coming from?
The problem here is that we've got a small crowd with a strong opinion, constantly shouting their opinion to each other and making an unfriendly environment to anyone who doesn't share that opinion. So of course it seems like "everyone" shares that opinion, you never see otherwise.
chloroken@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Here in Lemmy, in my experience, this goes nowhere. You put it very clearly on your second paragraph. The small crowd with a strong opinion that thinks all AI is terrible in Lemmy is a bigger or at least more active group than the opposite. And with no ability to consider opposite points of view.
As a developer, most others I know of actually like the ai technology and use it as a way to analyze big amount of data quickly or as a starting point, while at the same time basically all hate the corporate AI side of things, specially idiotic managers and ceo-like asshats that keep pushing AI for all the wrong reasons and in all the wrong ways.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 days ago
Fortunately the one saving grace of the Fediverse is that you can see both the upvote and downvote totals for a comment, not just the net difference between them. So even though it's clear what the majority view is - "AI bad, everyone hates it, and you're bad for suggesting it could possibly be otherwise!" - I can still see that there are a minority who appreciate my perspective as well. So I continue rolling that boulder up the hill, for the benefit of those who might otherwise only see the "nobody wants AI!" messaging and think it might be true.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah, lemmy is really a hell of an echo chamber on certain topics. I see both pros and cons to AI, and that balanced view makes me literally the most anti-AI person in my social circle.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 days ago
Most people in tech that I know hate AI, including devs. I know one manager who is gung ho for it but everyone is annoyed by him and he was already well known for going apeshit over whatever the latest tech buzzword is before the whole AI craze kicked off.
Anecdotal I suppose, but IMO, most people who are actually technical seem to treat AI with a good degree of skepticism if not outright disdain.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 days ago
Emphasis added. We all live inside social bubbles, if one wants to talk about what most people in general believe then one must use data from beyond that. Otherwise you're going to get a very biased sample, since we generally choose to associate with people who share our own personal values.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I don’t disagree with using unbiased data, but where is yours?
FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 days ago
Data for the claim that lots of tech-savvy people are developing and using AI? Some of the biggest tech companies in the world right now have an AI focus. NVIDIA, OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, they're all making massive use of AI. If you want to discount "corporate" tech-savvy people, This page indicates 15 million developers are using GitHub Copilot. Linus Torvalds has spoken in favor of using AI to maintain Linux, if you'd like someone specific and big-name as an example.
onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
FYI: this person is a self-labeled defender of LLM “art”.
chunes@lemmy.world 2 days ago
proving their point