there are no good options to buy an “ethical” phone
Actually there are. Look up Fairphone and Shiftphone
It’s far easier to just not use Amazon than it is to not own a phone or computer.
Yes, it sucks there are no good options to buy an “ethical” phone, but phones are basically a necessity. Instead of shopping from Amazon you can shop from tons of other places.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
NOPper@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As someone who recently tried the Fairphone 4 out to replace an absolutely dying OnePlus 5 I’ve had for years as well as the guy who uses open source everything/advocates for the same - It’s not a mainstream option at all yet. If they could decouple the software from the hardware better maybe people would be willing to deal with the bugs but eOS and Lineage, while awesome projects I support, don’t play with many “secure” apps at all due to how Google decided to lock them down and that alone is a deal breaker for anyone working where you need access to say…Outlook. Banking apps can have issues (depending on the bank) which while maybe easy to work around for you and I is a huge pain in the ass for most folks who just want their phone to work. Having to jump through hoops to get the Play store on there in the first place is not going to work for anyone who isn’t fully committed to the de-Googled experience. F-Droid is the first thing I install on a new phone but there’s no way it’s going to be my only portal to apps I need.
They are certainly meeting their own set goals, and the hardware while bulky doesn’t feel cheap or anything, so that’s great. I really love how easy it would be to replace most of the phone if/when broken, and the commitment to fair labor practices and control of the supply chain is tremendously commendable. But for a tool most humans rely on for day to day life, the honest truth is neither project is quite there yet to be adopted in the mainstream.
If it sounds like I’m shitting on either of these companies that isn’t my intent at all. I’m following the progress with FP5 and really look forward to seeing the ideas set here grow if they can.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s a bummer. Hope they manage to iron out those issues because I was planning on getting one when my Samsung dies.
NOPper@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean… get one and try it out! They have a fair return policy.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
This is the same thing people say to those who shop at Walmart - it’s not always a choice. Amazon has run out digital and brick and mortar shops alike. Sometimes someone needs something in 2-4 days and there is literally no other way to get it. I know as a parent I try my best but when you have screaming toddlers and no sleep, yeah, I’m just going to buy that third replacement sippy cup off Amazon sometimes lol
blivet@artemis.camp 1 year ago
Yeah, I try to buy stuff from brick and mortar stores. I figure that even if it’s a big box store at least there are actual employees who work there who live in my area.
But I can’t even find the kind of underwear I like at any physical store near me. Even online, Amazon seems to be the only place that stocks it.
The same goes for the style of light jacket that I prefer. I’ve spent months looking everywhere, and the only place I found even an approximation of what I want is Amazon.
I’ve noticed that even in big box stores nowadays the selection is pretty limited. You see a wall of racks full of the same item.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I went to Home Depot store looking for some (admittedly kinda weird) hardware and after browsing around for a while the store associate told me to buy it on Amazon.
themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh god. You’re one of those people who act like raising kids wasn’t possible without all the modern luxuries. You’d have failed as a parent 30 years ago.
Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 1 year ago
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
Because they are just being nasty on the internet, sadly.
themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because the idea that kids are so difficult to raise without next day delivery is a pathetic thing to imply.
That is all.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
Every parent ever has taken the speedy route in a pinch. I think he might be extrapolating a tiny bit too much about my capability as a parent but I’m also not going to take such obvious bait lol
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
Every parent ever has taken the speedy route in a pinch. I think you might be extrapolating a tiny bit too much about my capability as a parent but you’re obviously trying to get me to rage over it lol I’m far from parent of the year and I think my ego can handle that. So I’ll pass on the rage bait, but here’s a fun exercise for your own personal edification:
Go ask your parents if they cared about the environment or chose the easy route and did disposable diapers. After all, people went thousands of years without them and they’re just a recent invention filling landfills.
Surely you would use cloth diapers if you ever had a child because everyone did it prior and they’re so terrible for landfills/cloth diapers are by far the more sustainable and budget-friendly option, right? Is that a fair assessment?