Comment on Denmark wants to ban VPNs to unlock foreign, illegal streams – and experts are worried

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My bet is on a lot of bigtech bribes lobbying

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  • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Big Tech has no interest in chat control, though.
    They vehemently opposed it from the start.
    How the Danish are acting just doesn’t make sense…

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    • Mondez@lemdro.id ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s more complicated than that as control acts as a barrier to entry preventing competitive start ups entering the market and disrupting it so established players probably don’t care as they can bare the cost of compliance if they have to.

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        But it would be the other way around:
        Established players would have to completely break their existant transport layer in the whole world, just to be able to also cover the EU. (Or leave.)

        While potential new competitors would be able to design it to comply right from the start.

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• WereHacker@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Don’t be fooled by the party names. You have to look at the policies and consequences. Danes like to feel progressive, have left leaning stuff like free education and totalitarian measures against stuff they fear. The social democratic party remained in power after Germany moved troops into Denmark in 1940. It should tell you a lot.

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  • cecilkorik@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are fascists subverting every location on the political spectrum, none of them are immune. We’ve been trained to think in terms of “left” or “right” but these fuckers are coming at us sideways and corrupting our whole politcal spectrum at once. Don’t fall for it, pay attention to actions, not labels.

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    • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think they always have used this tactic, there’s “socialist” in Nazi, they are just highly specific with who they want to socialize with.

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  • eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Denmark resistance lasted for the whole 6 hours.

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, the time it took to drive from Germany

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• EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Something is rotten in Denmark.

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  • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It isn’t just Denmark. You see it here in Sweden, too. I’d be surprised if you didn’t see it across Europe.

    I’m not really happy with any of the big political parties here in Sweden. The Greens hate nuclear power so much they’d prefer to open up fossil fuelled power plants than keep nuclear ones up and running. The Left party work really hard to get out of the EU. These are both parties I align the best with.

    The Social Democrats are just these milquetoast soft-core conservatives, pretending to care about issues but turning their coats the second they get the chance. Unfortunately they always end up leading any of the left-winged government coalitions, typically with the help from the Centre who then gets to dictate all the policies.

    It’s been like this for well over a decade at this point. Useless bunch, the lot of them.

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah Sweden has been doing great strides toward a full surveillance state, it is creepy as fuck.

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      • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        All country leaders are looking at North Korea with loving eyes.

        I remember how almost twenty years ago people were scoffing at the great firewall of China, how they’d restrict information and what not. Now all western countries are all “we must do this, for the children!”

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    • iLStrix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Wow, this is quite an interesting read, because you can write almost the same thing - word for word - about Germany. It’s the same overall in Germany with a few differences like time (it has been going on for a lot longer here) and some of the left are a bit different.

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• bumblefumble@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The soc.dem. are not a left party anymore. The current government consists of three different center-right parties. And they have some weird priorities sometimes.

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• tjoa@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The social democrats copied a lot of anti immigration talking points from the right because this seems to be just popular in Denmark. I guess they are just weird.

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But these laws are not anti immigration, they are anti freedom in general.

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    • tjoa@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      True, my guess is as good as yours. It feels like they paired seemingly good intentions (I mean who is against fighting CSAM right) with a complete lack of technical understanding and proportion. Maybe that’s not a political spectrum kind of think but generational lol. Idk tho it still confuses me how people can be so ignorant to go through with this.

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• evilcultist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wonder how much it has to do with the success and subsequent loss of this operation: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield

  Because it seems like a lot of countries in the west are pushing this kind of thing rover the last several years and there’s a heavy push right now. privacyguides.org/…/taylor-lorenz-on-kosa-the-scr…

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