Comment on Samsung to halt SATA SSD production, leaker warns of up to 18 months of SSD price pressure, worse than Micron ending consumer RAM

• Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t use SSDs for a server…

  lol

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are plenty of reasons to put SSDs in a home server.

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  • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And most are wrong or unnecessary. What movie requires SSD performance?

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    • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      HDDs have horrible random access times, so if you need to process or just copy a lot of small files, say photos, there’s a significant penalty.

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      • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ok, but what are they doing that moves loads of random files?

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• jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are definitely valid reasons to use SSDs in a server/array. One of my proxmox servers runs 4x m.2s in raidz1 so all my vms are super snappy. Depending on what you’re running you can really see benefits, for example:

  • Elastic Stack
  • Network storage for photo editing
  • Lemmy
  • Immich

  Pretty much anything with a lot of metadata or tons of files will see benefits from running on SSDs, this comes with the caveat that cheap ssds wear quickly and are a pain in the ass but if you need it, you need it

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Indeed.

    It’s standard distributed systems design to have a hierarchy of storage with different speeds whose contents is allocated based on the frequency with which certain data is accessed, and HDDs are really only good for bulk that which is seldom accessed (basically the speed category for long term storage with low wait times when it does get needed but not really meant to be constantly accessed, which is just above things like tapes and other backup storage methods).

    So for example for a dynamic website with thousands of users HDDs most current data should be in SSDs and HDDs would maybe contain low access info such as historical data from the last couple of years and in front of those SSDs there would be a ton of memory to serve as a cache for the most accessed of all data (say, the CSS, JS and images of the home page) as in-memory data is even faster to access than data in an SSD.

    The idea that SSDs aren’t useful for servers is hilarious ignorant.

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  • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok. But then you are not a regular person running a regular home server but an enthusiast with small scale commercial needs.

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    • jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think anyone running a home server qualifies as an enthusiast, there are more uses for home servers than just plex lol

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