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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Brand recognition cannot be overstated.

If there was a better-than-YouTube alternative right now, YouTube would still dominate.

If there was a phone OS superior to Android and iOS, they would both still dominate.

If there was a search engine that worked far better than Google, Google would still dominate.

The average person won’t look into LLM reasoning benchmarks. They’ll just use the one they know, ChatGPT.

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MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
But Windows and Google can shove it in your face because you’re already on their platform and they are doing that. You have to go to openai website.

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Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Youtube and android have strong network effects. I don’t think openai has anything close to comparable. They tried I am sure, I recall an app platform they added to chatgpt, but I haven’t heard of it in ages so I assume it hasn’t been a dominant factor.
I also don’t get the impression there is enough training material available exclusively to openai it’d be such a factor.

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echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I don’t think openAI is as well-known a Google.

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- TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  ChatGPT might be, which is the point.
  
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wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You are comparing very well established brands to a company in a sector that is far less established. Yes, OpenAI is the most well known, but not to the degree of $300B.

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- TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  OpenAI is pretty well established.
  
  I know Lemmy users avoid it, but a lot of people use LLMs, and when most people think LLMs, they think ChatGPT. I doubt the average person could name many or even any others.
  
  That means whenever these people want to use an LLM, they automatically go to OpenAI.
  
  As for to the degree of $300bn, who knows. Big tech has had crazy valuations for a long time.
  
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  - Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    I doubt the average person could name many or even any others.
    
    I mean, it’s an easy answer to got the other 3 main ones: Gemini, copilot and MechaHitler
    
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    Hackworth@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Copilot is just an implementation of GPT. Claude’s the other main one.
    
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  - xartle@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I totally agree with you. In fact, I know people who use ChatGPT exclusively and don’t touch the web anymore. Who knows who will have the best models, but they are definitely capturing a lot of people early.
    
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RightEdofer@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
What they know is Google though. Most normal people doing a search now just take the Gemini snippet at the top. They don’t know or care what AI even is really. I don’t know how OpenAI can possibly compete with web search defaults.

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