Comment on Breaking: NSW Police responding to reports of shooter at Bondi Beach

• Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  always an excuse eh?

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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What’s the excuse? It’s just a fact. Israel and it’s supporters deliberately conflate the nation of Israel with the religion. That part is undeniable.

    If you’re being charitable, it’s because it allows them to brush off criticism of their genocide and apartheid state as being “antisemitic”. If you’re less charitable towards Israel’s government and supporters, it’s that, plus it has the added “bonus” of inflaming the kinds of actual antisemitism that help drive support for Israel’s cause.

    The irony being of course that Israel’s own stance is itself antisemitic, and as such it is the world’s number one source of antisemitism.

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They were not killed for being Israeli, because they weren’t Israeli, they were Australian. They were killed because they were Jews. Obviously.

      You’re making excuses for it and desperately trying to blame the victims because that’s what antisemites do.

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      • eureka@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I think that’s their point - the Zionist movement intentionally tries to conflate Israel with Jewish people and with Judaism. For example, criticism of the country Israel and pro-Palestinean actions have generally been framed by Zionist groups as an attack on Jewish people, rather than an attack on a country and its actions.

        This uses Jewish people as a shield for the actions of Zionism, and encourages antisemitism as a result. When some mass media news, social media influencers and racist agitators (e.g. neo-Nazis) try to associate regular Jewish locals with the atrocities of Israel, this scapegoating puts all Jewish people (even those who are anti-Israel) in danger of indiscriminate attack.

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      • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No, they were killed because the murderers fell for the Israeli antisemitic lie. The idea that all actions of Israel are necessarily representative of all Jews. The same lie that you are spreading here by assuming that because the victims were Jews, and because I put a portion of the blame on Israel, I must be blaming the victims. Even though the victims’ position on Israel is not known.

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    • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      ah ok, what’s your reasoning for this one?

      German authorities are suspecting that the attack plans were based on an Islamist motive and that it would be carried out by car. The suspects include a 56-year-old Egyptian, a 37-year-old Syrian and three Moroccans aged 22, 28 and 30.

      www.dw.com/en/…/a-75148071

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      • CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Hard to know what these cunts we’re thinking. But we can guess that with their nutty religious perspective, they see everything in terms of religion. The U.S. is a Christian power that enables Israel. So Christians and Christmas could be legit revenge targets in their eyes. Who knows?

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  • rcbrk@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No, of course not a fucking excuse, but a distinct possibility if you coldly consider which entities could possibly benefit from a violent attack on civilian Jewish community.

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• Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s all Biden’s fault . If Biden didn’t falsely imprison all the Jan 6 freedom fighters and let in terrorists at the borders Trump wouldn’t have to have ICE

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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    ¿Que?

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    • SaneMartigan@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Just conspiracy satire, seagoon’s great.

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