Comment on Kohler Can Access Data and Pictures from Toilet Camera It Describes as “End-to-End Encrypted”

kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Don’t forget AI, for a toilet.

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  • Deconceptualist@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So our toilets will very soon be smarter than the current US president, got it.

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    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Is it even a bar (standard) anymore of it’s low enough to be laying on the ground?

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      • Deconceptualist@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Pretty sure toilet water often goes below ground. So that’s where we’re at 😞

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  • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I mean, if that one gains sentience and goes all SkyNet on us I’ll understand where it’s coming from

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I mean, there is a legitimate benefit here. The camera can analyze your feces for health issues. And most people aren’t smart enough to set up their own server so they host one for you. And the AI analysis would cost a lot more to be processed locally.

  And personally, I would not be terribly concerned about photos of my poo going into a database.

  Not saying you should buy one of these but it definitely can provide value, especially if you have intestinal issues.

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  • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    My field is bioinformatics. I’m willing to bet $500 there’s little to no valuable data being gathered at all, and quite a lot of noise, rather than anything relevant for your health. I’m sure, just like your smart watch, they can make it sound like some deep insights and health exploration, but I guarantee you it’s not.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re telling me there’s zero valuable information in photos of feces? What about this?

      https://img.lb.wbmdstatic.com/vim/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/article_thumbnails/BigBead/what_kind_of_poop_do_i_have_bigbead/650x1150_what_kind_of_poop_do_i_have_bigbead.jpg

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      • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You’re telling me there’s zero valuable information in photos of feces?

        Nope. I’m saying a private company and whatever training set they have, plus a cheap RGB camera and an AI model, is not going to give you any information that you can’t derive by simply looking at the feces yourself, much like the table you just linked. Though that table itself is an oversimplification that, being unable to take other parameters into account, also contains potentially misleading conclusions.

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    • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So you’re saying the data is a bunch of shit?

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