Comment on Half of the US Now Requires You to Upload Your ID or Scan Your Face to Watch Porn

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The end game here is to require ID for social media in order to suppress dissent.

  in 7 days, that’s what australia will have.

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• sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I hope to Darwin social media ends up requiring ID. I believe it would do wonders for democratic discourse. It was only last week, a number of large US right-wing accounts were revealed to be driven from outside the US. Is it healthy for democracies that so many people pay heed to foreign actors?

  If you write an op-ed for a newspaper, the newspaper need to identify you as there is an editor who is responsible for what gets written in the paper. This ensures there’s someone who can stand to account for any libellous statements.

  With social media we immediately reneged on this and allowed them to wash their hands; “we are just a channel” is a pretty bleak statement to make when the discourse on social media destroys the lives of minorities, encourages suicide, undermines our democracy with AI and troll farm bots.

  And we can do this is a privacy preserving way - of course the social media companies feeds the opposite narrative because they don’t want to implicated in the piles of shit they shovel on top of our democracy.

  If social media was required to ensure they could tie an account to a real person, which they needn’t reveal unless forced to by a court order, we would know that we were engaging with a real opinion, not something coughed up by a Putin-run AI bot or a Chinese troll farm.

  The system required isn’t that complex.

  A social media

  • a social media company is opening a new account.
  • it sends the person opening the account to any of the multitude of ways we can already verify identity online.
  • the person is identified and issued an identity token, which gets sent to the social media company.
  • the social media company says “great, this person is real and we can, if required by a court order, work with the identity company to reveal who this person is is”. Right now, all the social media company has is a token.
  • the account is opened.

  In a system likes this, the identity company doesn’t know who the person is; that sits with the social media company.

  Nor does the identity service know which account is actually posting for this real person, all they know is they verified someone as part of an account opening process.

  Social media should be treated like the press - make them accountable for what gets posted and allow them to place this accountability on a real person by labelling posts “op-eds” if, and only if, they know who is doing the posting.

  We are letting large, anonymous money-men ruin our democracy behind the veil of “free discourse”. It’s not free to the many people who gets harmed by it.

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  • hark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not going to give up my privacy over your fear of foreign bogeymen.

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    • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Bogeymen are imaginary. Political troll farms are real.

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    • qyron@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      That’s the point.

      You, as a common citizen, should not have to. But the moment you feel like to share your thought or opinion, you should be identifiable and made responsible for it.

      The current social media outlets shield behind the argument they act solely as channels while at the same time fostering and allowing for “anonymous” groups or individuals to spout whatever views they want, often views that deter from advancing social and civilizational progress. Hence the current state of the world, with authoritarianism on a rise and hight like there wasn’t in nearly 70 years.

      When the internet was made of individual websites, the person behind it was automatically made responsible for whatever they put on it. That was fair and reasonable.

      Pushes like this, is assigning suspition/guilt before any wrong doing.

      I will grant the overall facilitated acess to pornography is damaging the kids. There are already enough studies showing how the early access to porn is related to bad interpersonal relations on social, emotional and sexual level.

      But this does not imply you should be identifying yourself to access adult content or anything on the web. Just impose curation. If it’s available to the public, you’re responsible for it.

      Old school “dirty” books and magazines stores had controlled access and the really hardcore stuff was well out of reach of who should not get to it. Free porn is nice but there are things available that should be behind pay walls or at least registry, with identity verification.

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s all fun and games until the government decides that it really doesn’t like dissenting opinions. We’ve already seen serious erosion of 1A rights in the U.S.

      It would be one thing to have this in a world with benevolent leadership. But that isn’t the world we are living in.

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