Comment on Grisham, Martin join authors suing OpenAI: “There is nothing fair about this”

• jpeps@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  To pile onto that, I was recently disturbed to find I was the dissenting voice in a comment thread by saying that we should not use AI to produce generated CSAM. The top comment defended the idea.

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  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It is impossible to generate CSAM.

    That’s the entire goddamn point of calling it CSAM. To stop people mislabeling drawings as CP, when they don’t understand that Bart Simpson doesn’t have the same moral standing as a real human child.

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    • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair, regardless of where you stand on the topic, there is a big difference between a drawing of a child, and a photo realistic recreation of a child that would be indistinguishable from real csam. Particularly if ai was used to make these images in the likeness of real children, which I guarantee many people who consume that sort of stuff would do.

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      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The difference between any made-up image and actual child abuse is insurmountable.

        Copy-pasting a real face onto such an image is still not the same kind of problem as child rape.

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• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  pro privacy, anti big tech, and anti capitalism

  And you’re surprised this correlates against letting authors control information for money?

  The software-freedom crowd just wants OpenAI’s models published, so no single company gets to limit access to the distilled essence of all public knowledge. Being against “big tech” has never meant being against… tech. We’re not Amish. We’re open-source diehards. Sometimes that comes through as declaring a vendetta against intellectual property, as a concept. No kidding those folks aren’t lining up behind GRRM, when he declares a robot’s not allowed to learn English from his lengthy and well-known books.

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  • cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My comment addresses my perception of Lemmy users, not the open source community. These two groups are not the same as is evidenced by the frequent complaints on the front page about open source gatekeeping and quantity of open source topics.

    Let me add, I’m also a long time user and contributor of/to open source and free software. I think it’s not correct to assume we’re a single group that all share the same opinion. Best, cloudy1999

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    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      These two groups massively overlap, as evidenced by the quantity of open source topics to be complained about.

      You don’t get to hand-wave about a group of people, based on their opinions on this subject, and then complain about someone addressing your summary on its merits.

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      • cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Overlap yes, equal no. I don’t believe either of my comments included a complaint. People are entitled their opinions. My original and new remarks were only observations, no offense intended.

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