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• TurnOnTheSunflower@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If he’s right, I understand you. But generally you should be very careful believing stats without sources/citing.

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  • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Baseline research on support for the fullscale invasion:

    https://www.levada.ru/en/2024/05/17/conflict-with-ukraine-assesments-for-march-2024/

    The level of support for the Russian armed forces has not changed significantly since the beginning of the conflict – the majority of respondents (76%) support the actions of Russian troops in Ukraine, including 48% “definitely support” and another 28% “rather support” the action of Russian army. 16% are against.

    Research with preference falsification adjustments with respect to support for the full scale invasion:

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20531680221108328

    when asked directly, 71% of respondents support [full scale invasion of Ukraine], while this share drops to 61% when using the list experiment

    Support for annexation of Crimea:

    https://www.levada.ru/en/2021/05/19/crimea-3/

    The vast majority of Russians (86%) consistently support the accession of Crimea to Russia – this indicator has fluctuated slightly since 2014. 9% do not support the accession.

    Research with preference falsification adjustments with respect to support for annexation of Crimea:

    https://www.jiia.or.jp/en/column/2022/09/russia-fy2022-01.html

    Using the list-experiment technique, Timothy Frye and others showed that Putin's approval rating after the annexation of Crimea was actually high, at around 80%. In their study, they made a list of famous Russian politicians and had respondents answer how many of these politicians they supported. They then estimated Putin's approval rating by adding the name "Putin" to the list for only one group[*]3 and thus concluded that the high approval ratings after the annexation of Crimea were not very different from the findings of opinion pollsters.

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    • TurnOnTheSunflower@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thank you, but I have no horse in this race. Still appreciate your effort, though.

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      • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I understand. This is a forum, so I am not going to add expansive footnotes to my posts, but I am happy to cite the research I have read if asked. FWIW, I have also read counter argument for approaches used by the research I have cited (which I don’t find convincing).

        Just pointing out that I am not randomly making stuff up.

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• Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I strongly disagree, the Workers & Resource DLC link can provide some insights on this; russian language reviews talk about “getting salo for the Ukrainians” and whataboutism about Palestine (like they care about Palestine, if anything most russians tend to support Israel). There is lots of anti-Ukrainian, pro-invasion russian language commentary on Steam.

  We’ve lived in russia as an expat family for many years, we left as soon as our finances allowed us to (this was was before the russians invaded Georgia in 2008).

  Then there is broader research on russian support for the full scale invasion; even using demographic splits (e.g. people aged 18 to 24, highly educated russians, high income russians), all demographic segments show at least majority support for the full scale invasion (with almost all segment groups showing at strong majority support and very commonly overwhelming majority support).

  With respect to arguments that “people are afraid to show their true views”; there are multiple research pieces that specifically account for preference falsification. Some russians do hide their preferences, but this group is so small that even with preference falsification adjustments you have a strong majority support (65%+) for the full scale invasion. That’s specifically the full scale invasion (i.e. 2022), with respect to the annexation of Crimea, preference falsification was found to be not statistically significant with the respect to the baseline ~85% support for the annexation of Crimea.

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• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you ever get to play csgo or dota2 you’re likely to change this opinion

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• hannesh93@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ever heard of “bread and games” to keep the population docile and stop revolts?

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