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• Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My opinion is that your work was very unethical from the get-go

  Calling any form of military “unethical” is the absolute peak level of clueless wishful thinking.

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sorry, I’m not sure I’m familiar with this particular school of moral philosophy. What’s it called? Bootlicking?

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s called “not being an idiot and realising you not having military doesn’t protect you from the despot one border over who does”. You should read up on it.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hmm, but if I’m conquered by the despot one border over, then I suppose I have to start supporting his military. After all, I’d be an idiot to not support the only people protecting me from the other despite one border over, right?

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  • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I didn’t say that, and yeah, almost all forms of military is just a waste, sorry.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I agree in principle. But in reality, as long as someone has military, everybody has to have it too.

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• Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think it depends on whether you work on actual defense systems rather than assault systems.

  Anti missile systems for example.

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s no real difference between offense and defense. The more secure my position, the more easily I can attack from it without fear of retribution.

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• Delascas@feddit.uk ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You rather made my point - everything about morality is retaliative. There are no absolutes - it is up to your (and my) prospective. For the record, I do wrestle with my employment there . . .yes, we did stop many, many Russian tanks. But I also suspect other systems have been used in Gaza by the IDF. As for speeding and taking out Musk - 100%, sign me up for that moral tradeoff right now!!!

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  • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I do not adhere to moral relativity at all. It is, I think, an untenable position that makes pedophiles and genocides as valid as charity work and kids’ hospitals.

    Also, how can you believe absolutely that there are no moral absolutes? It was pointed as illogical more than a couple millennia ago.

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    • Delascas@feddit.uk ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It appears you are confusing moral absolutism with moral universalism. I stand by what I wrote.

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      • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t think so. You said “everything about morality is relative”, what do you subscribe to?

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    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ok sure, then what is the source of this moral authority which defines all morality?

      Morality is a social construct, not an immutable part of the universe, and there are many societies on Earth so what is ‘moral’ completely depends on where you are.

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      • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m talking about normative ethics, not descriptive.

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