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Delascas@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is just moral luck. My opinion is that your work was very unethical from the get-go and you just happened to be happy with the outcome. It’s like saying you are ashamed of speeding in your car, until some day, when you crashed into Elon Musk.

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My opinion is that your work was very unethical from the get-go

    Calling any form of military “unethical” is the absolute peak level of clueless wishful thinking.

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sorry, I’m not sure I’m familiar with this particular school of moral philosophy. What’s it called? Bootlicking?

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s called “not being an idiot and realising you not having military doesn’t protect you from the despot one border over who does”. You should read up on it.

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    • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t say that, and yeah, almost all forms of military is just a waste, sorry.

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I agree in principle. But in reality, as long as someone has military, everybody has to have it too.

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think it depends on whether you work on actual defense systems rather than assault systems.

    Anti missile systems for example.

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s no real difference between offense and defense. The more secure my position, the more easily I can attack from it without fear of retribution.

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  • Delascas@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You rather made my point - everything about morality is retaliative. There are no absolutes - it is up to your (and my) prospective. For the record, I do wrestle with my employment there . . .yes, we did stop many, many Russian tanks. But I also suspect other systems have been used in Gaza by the IDF. As for speeding and taking out Musk - 100%, sign me up for that moral tradeoff right now!!!

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    • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I do not adhere to moral relativity at all. It is, I think, an untenable position that makes pedophiles and genocides as valid as charity work and kids’ hospitals.

      Also, how can you believe absolutely that there are no moral absolutes? It was pointed as illogical more than a couple millennia ago.

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      • Delascas@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It appears you are confusing moral absolutism with moral universalism. I stand by what I wrote.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ok sure, then what is the source of this moral authority which defines all morality?

        Morality is a social construct, not an immutable part of the universe, and there are many societies on Earth so what is ‘moral’ completely depends on where you are.

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• GLOOMSDAY@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Bo7a@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    oh look another fresh account come over from Reddit and trying to be his same edgy fucking self. easy block. bye-bye.

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    • GLOOMSDAY@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      pfft bye-bye? ok i’ll talk to the hand.

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  • GLOOMSDAY@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re human shit. You said as much. Don’t down vote me because I hate you, and everything you set in motion. All the harm you caused. Drop dead creep.

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    • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • GLOOMSDAY@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        wahhhh want a nappy kiddo?

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