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• SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I view AI to be like the printing press: It is good for the everyman…if that everyman was willing to own and make use of it. By ceding AI to oligarchs, society would be allowing the 1% to have more tools to do stuff, while denying the public from making effective use of them.

  The answer isn’t to reject AI, but to fund publicly developed and owned AI. Every minority who has 95% of Disney’s legal acumen in their pocket, will be able to more effectively resist Kavenaugh Stops in court. An AI can scour the web and spot discounted goods that a person actually wants, and create a shopping list that is cheap and convenient. People can have a competent teacher, if their rural household lacks a school. All these things lend a little extra agency to ordinary people.

  My point, is that we shouldn’t refuse tools. Instead, we should adopt them on OUR terms, not the techbro’s.

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  • xcjs@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I have a similar perspective. I built my own in-home AI server because I assumed if the technology had any staying power, I better learn how it works to some degree and see if I can run it myself.

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  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    LoL, LLM’s aren’t capable of being “competent” at anything. Not law, not teaching, not even coding. They are pure garbage at nearly everything they are applied to. Yes, some of these things have had some limited success are finding patterns in the noise. But those successes are grossly outweighed by the absolute failure of them to do anything else.

    tech.co/news/list-ai-failures-mistakes-errors

    www.allaboutai.com/resources/…/ai-bias/

    independent.co.uk/…/ai-factual-errors-chatgpt-gem…

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    • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      AI is an technology, and like any technology, it improves. The AI we had two years ago was something akin to the Orville flier, the ones we have now are equivalent of a biplane. Those examples of technology weren’t very useful, but the planes that followed were far more capable and economical.

      Your assertions that AI is useless, is merely burying your head in the sand and hoping things will go alright. The outright refusal of AI by people like you, only ensures the most evil people can use it. This is like only allowing Nazis to own guns, peasants not being allowed to own land, or newspapers to only be owned by the wealthiest. It is power that you are giving up, and power doesn’t care about who has it.

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      • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Hallucinations are an intrinsic part of how LLMs work. OpenAI, literally the people with the most to lose if AI isn’t useful, has admitted that hallucinations are a mathematical inevitability, not something that can be engineered around. On top of that, been found that for things like mathematical proof finding switching to more sophisticated models doesn’t make them more accurate, it just makes their arguments more convincing.

        Now, you might say “oh but you can have a human in the loop to check the AIs work”, but for programming tasks its already been found that using LLMs makes programmers less productive. If a human needs to go over everything an AI generates, and reason about it anyway, that’s not really saving time or effort. Now consider that as you make the LLM more complex, having it generate longer and more complicated blocks of text, its errors also become harder to detect. Is that not just shuffling around the necessary human brainpower for a task instead of reducing it?

        So, in what field is this sort of thing useful? At one point I was hopeful that LLMs could be used in text summarization, but if I have to read the original text anyway to make sure that I haven’t been fed some highly convincing falsehood then what is the point?

        Currently I’m of the opinion that we might be able to use specialized LLMs as a heuristic to narrow the search tree for things like SAT solvers and answer set generators, but I don’t have much optimism for other use cases.

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  • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This assumes machine learning models are able to get better than they currently are. Newer models have been plateauing in quality of outputs (improvements have been noticable in video and image generation, but even that is slowing down)

    I don’t think we’re going to see machine learning models that perform well enough to create printing press level change to the world

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