That’s assuming the AI won’t look at the results and still make shit up. I’ve used AI-assisted search and i know that it’s not reliable.
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riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks agoToday, when you search for something you get a handful of ads, SEO-sponsored bullshit, and maybe the 6th link will be what you were actually looking for.
When you tell the AI agent (in your browser) to search for something, not only do you get the most relevant results (because you can make your prompt vastly more specific and detailed), you completely skip all that other stuff that you didn’t want.
I’ve been saying for some time now that AI is going to kill free search engines because it’s such a better way to search for stuff. Free search engines like Google and SEO-optimizing companies are hindrances to efficient browsing and drowning the web in bullshit. Poisoning search results.
An AI agent will skip past all that stuff and give you just what you want; you never see any ads!
Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Ok how would that work:
find me some good recipes for hibachi style ginger butterAI model returns 10 links, 4 of which don’t actually exist (because it hallucinated them)? No. If they didn’t exist, it wouldn’t have returned them because it wouldn’t have been able to load those URLs.
It’s possible that it could get it wrong because of some new kind of LLM scamming method but that’s not “making shit up” it’s malicious URLs.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If they didn’t exist, it wouldn’t have returned them
And yet I’ve had Bing’s Copilot/ChatGPT (with plugins like Consensus), Gemini, and Perplexity do exactly that, but worse. Sometimes they’ll cite sources that don’t mention anything related to the answer they’ve provided because the information they’re giving is based on some other training data they can’t source. They were asked to provide a source, but won’t necessarily give you the source. Hell, sometimes they’ll answer an adjacent just to spit out an answer–any answer–to fulfill the request.
LLMs are simply not the appropriate tool for the job. This is most obvious when you need the specificity and accuracy.
riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Yeah… The big commercial models have system prompts that fuck it all up. That’s my hypothesis, anyway.
You have to try it with an open source model. You tell it to turn the titles, URLs, and nothing else. That seems to work fantastic 👍
I’m doing it with Open WebUI and ollama cloud which is open source models that you could run locally—if you have like $5,000 worth of hardware.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ah yes, because there’s no way the programmers won’t induce bias in their AIs
riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
If you don’t like your current open source AI, just use a different one or an embedding that works around whatever bias you don’t like. Maybe open a ticket?
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riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
You’ve obviously never used an open source AI model (running locally on your PC) if you think that’s how it’d go.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Likewise, a properly set up and locally hosted searx instance should not be returning ads and “SEO-optimized bullshit”. You’re comparing “free” corporate owned services to privately owned ones. OFC corporate owned is going to feed you ads.
riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
The takeaway here is: Open source doesn’t suffer from enshittification.
Learn and contribute to FOSS or stop bitching 🤣