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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

It’s really sad to see what Donald has done to people’s brains.

This isn’t Trump. This is standard conservative brainworms going back to the Limbaugh Era and before. Just textbook Protestant-flavored Homophobic Misogyny. Dig through James Dobson’s prodigious backlog of public brainfarts or poke around in the Joe Pyne archives, you’ll find similar sentiments and commentary.

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Anything that gives a person undeserved pleasure is sinful. And the Protestant Work Ethic teaches us that only productive economy-stimulating labor is a worthwhile pursuit. Sex is a job, not a hobby. You do it to make the babies, not to experience any kind of corporeal pleasure.

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That falls under the “Very Rich Guy’s Addendum” to the Protestant Work Ethic. If you’re rich, it proves you worked harder than everyone else and none of the rules apply.

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Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
There have been a number of religious secs that believed pleasure during sex was sinful. The Shakers forbade sex altogether, thus, no more Shakers. Others accepted that sex was necessary but tried to come up with methods to remove or decrease the pleasure. A blanket strung down the middle of the bed with a hole in it.

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- incompetent@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Others accepted that sex was necessary but tried to come up with methods to remove or decrease the pleasure.
  
  Ever heard of Mormons “soaking?” LOL:
  
  “According to Men’s Health, soaking is when a man puts his penis inside of a female partner’s vagina. They then lay in the bed and have someone else shake the bed to cause movement”
  
  They think of it as a loophole to get around the whole “no sex before marriage” thing.
  
  I learned about the Shakers and Quakers back in elementary school but can’t remember much about them. I didn’t know they were celibate. So I looked into it and there are only 3 left in the U.S.
  
  The number of Shakers in the U.S. rises to 3 (NPR.org, Aug. 2025)
  
  A new person has joined the last active Shaker community in the U.S, bringing the Christian, communal, and celibate group to a total of three. They once numbered in the thousands.
  
  Interesting. Thank for showing me a rabbit hole to dive down.
  
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  - Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I picked up a fascinating book about Shaker furniture and architecture at a thrift store a while ago. Their religious ideals led to some extremely functional designs of furniture and structures that honestly can still be useful today. For example, Shaker chairs are designed with extra tall backs to be able to be hung up on the wall to make it easy to sweep underneath them when cleaning
    
    I’ve seen a theory that the shakers were specifically founded by a handful of aromantic/asexual folks and basically built a community for aro/ace folk before any acknowledgement of these concepts existed. Given their views on equality and functionality it does not take much of a leap of the imagination to see how such a community could form from a bunch of autistic aro/ace folks in a period when any of those characteristics would make it difficult to survive
    
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