Comment on YSK Joseph Stalin created the Great Terror. He started killing people randomly including artists, generals, doctors, diplomats, government officials. Everyone was terrified.

• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Looks around.Is that what you gotta tell yourself?

  Why do lemmy.ml users get hysterical when Joseph Stalin is described accurately?

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  • Sunforged@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I honestly have no issue there. My issue is the claim that such atrocities don’t happen in democratic institutions.

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    • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My issue is the claim that such atrocities don’t happen in democratic institutions.

      well, if ML users could read, you would know that OP made no such claims.

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    • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I honestly have no issue there. My issue is the claim that such atrocities don’t happen in democratic institutions.

      I can’t recall any democratic countries, fragile or not, that can hold a candle to the atrocities committed by Joseph Stalin.

      Can you point out the equivalent that we should look at in this case of whataboutism? Since we’re talking about millions being killed by Joseph Stalin, what are the comparables?

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      • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Before the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the archival revelations, some historians estimated that the numbers killed by Stalin’s regime were 20 million or higher.[5][6][7] After the Soviet Union dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives was declassified and researchers were allowed to study it. This contained official records of 799,455 executions (1921–1953),[8][9][10][11][12] around 1.5 to 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag,[13][14][15] some 390,000[16] deaths during the dekulakization forced resettlement, and up to 400,000 deaths of persons deported during the 1940s,[17] with a total of about 3.3 million officially recorded victims in these categories.[18] According to historian Stephen Wheatcroft, approximately 1 million of these deaths were “purposive” while the rest happened through neglect and irresponsibility.[2] The deaths of at least 5.5 to 6.5 million[19] persons in the Soviet famine of 1932–1933 are sometimes included with the victims of the Stalin era.[2][20] - wikipedia

        So being generous we’ll go high and say 10 million

        According to the World Health Organization (WHO), around 9 million people die annually from hunger and malnutrition, mostly in regions where capitalist-driven global inequality has made basic necessities unaffordable or inaccessible.

        So less in a year due to capitalism (ignoring wars and whatnot) than the total of Stalin. But also dealing with huge differences in populations involved. Both seem pretty shitty if you ask me.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My issue is the claim that such atrocities don’t happen in democratic institutions.

      But that’s the point, they don’t.

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      • flandish@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        they don’t?

        lol. have you seen how child labor works? or banana republics? or coups? or prison labor? or slavery?

        come on now. stop being a thick moron.

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      • Sunforged@lemmy.ml ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You sure?

        Really?

        How sure?

        Like, I could look at ICE raids and their obvious purpose of terrorizing the immigrant community, but I have a feeling you’re the type of bootlicker that thinks those actions are justified.

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  • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    because they’re Tankies

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    • Sunforged@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Keep making assumptions.

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      • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        correct assumptions.

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      • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        At this point, ml username is a choice. To be a tankie.

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      • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        fuck off, tankie swine

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