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• khepri@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Boy this thread is the strangest thing I’ve seen in a minute. hope you aren’t letting this gaslighting weirdo get to you

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Oh I’m not, but I appreciate your concern.

    See, as a person with CPTSD from the level and extent to which I have been traumatized by narcissists…

    I know how they operate, and I’ve basically just played them, fed into their compulsive need to make everything about themselves, to always see themselves as a victim.

    I’ve here taken this uh, organic, emergent, unexpected turn of events, to turn this into an example that further showcases how narcissism actually works.

    Why do this?

    Unironically, to raise awareness.

    So, so many people who are abused by narcissists are of course also gaslit by them, and don’t realize that the way a narcissist acts, the things they tell you are normal…

    … they’re not.

    Here, here’s the song I use as my ‘Ode to Narcissists.’

    Listen to lyrics. (Skip to about 2 min if you’re not a fan of the non radio cut, the extended version)

    New Order - Blue Monday

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    • khepri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

      Alright cool dude, just as someone who also has autism, and also had a narc parent, and who did the whole deep dive over months giving myself a practical degree on the topic, thought I throw a bit of support your way cause ya know hoy por ti, mañana por mí 😁

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• Best_Jeanist@discuss.online ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So you’re saying autism and narcissism (autism spectrum disorder and narcissistic personality disorder) are similar enough that you are certain you can relate to the struggles of people with NPD and you know they shouldn’t be concerned about having a slur used?

  Suppose someone who hated Elon Musk called him a nasty word like “emotionless autist” or “robot sperg”, as examples of anti-autism slurs based on shortening the name of the diagnosis. I think this would be the same as calling your parents the slur you used. If you can honestly say you’d be completely fine having an anti-autism slur used on a bad person, then I’ll accept your use of an anti-narcissism slur on bad people. But if you think one of those two very similar situations would be ableist and would hurt disabled people, then please accept that they’re both ableist and they both hurt disabled people.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    So you’re saying autism and narcissism (autism spectrum disorder and narcissistic personality disorder) are similar enough that you are certain you can relate to the struggles of people with NPD and you know they shouldn’t be concerned about having a slur used?

    Nope.

    I am saying they are both words, concepts, with complex etymologies, histories, whose specific meanings change over time, and are sometimes or even often used clumsily, or misused… but they still fundamentally do have meaning.

    These terms can be used as slurs, insults.

    They can also be used dispationately, accurately.

    Here’s another example of a word like that:

    Obese.

    It’s got a fairly clear and straightforward definition, based off of BMI.

    Now, is the BMI perfect? No, there are a good number of factors that the simple BMI glosses over, you’d have to take those factors into account to make a more accurate determination.

    Doesn’t obesity isn’t real, doesn’t mean no one is obese, and again, it also doesn’t mean that some people use that term as a slur, an insult.

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    I again have no clue how you were able to read ‘I can relate to the struggles of a person with NPD’ out of what I wrote.

    I never said that, I never said anything like that.

    Well… ok.

    I kinda maybe just lied a little bit there.

    With this latest response of yours… I’m pretty sure I know how you heard something completely different than what I said, how you invented a different meaning that doesn’t exist in the text I wrote, how you managed to find a way to be personally offended and attacked.

    You are a narcissist, you have NPD.

    You’ve found a way to make my pithy quip about my own trauma into your trauma, actually.

    You’ve managed to invent, and then try to reframe this whole discussion about you.

    You’ve popped in to let everyone know that your feelings have been hurt, and that I’m a bad person who uses bad words like a bad person who hates Jews.

    This is perhaps the most classic narcissist behavior, immediately recognizable to anyone who has ever known a narcissist: The ability (need?) to insert yourself into essentially any situation, proclaim “I’m the victim, actually”, and then character assasinate basically anyone, for any reason, in any way.

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    I don’t think that me saying any of this is going to change your mind.

    I also don’t care how you feel, because for you, feelings are a weapon; I don’t care if you can or cannot control your reflexive weaponization of your feelings, your delusional reflexive interpretation of anything anyone says as either a personal insult against you, or not sufficiently adulatory, supplicatory.

    I am writing this reply, after which I am blocking you, so that others may be able to see this conversation, to see what narcissim is, how it works, and why people like me, who had their formative years shaped by people like you, why people like me have CPTSD and trust issues.

    So, again, kindly fuck off with your bullshit.

    Toodle-oo!

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