Comment on NHS staff who visit patients at home say St George’s flags can mean ‘no-go zones’
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 day agoThen stand up and opposed it being used as an anti immigration symbol. Because after the BNP copted it. Any org using it as a sign opposing immigration. Is very clearly an obviously attempting to use that history to scare. Not as a sign patriot ideals.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 day ago
What do you propose I do? I’m very not anti-immigration. I’m not pro immigration but I’m anti-anti-immigration. I think people should be able to come here with good reason and/or if it’s mutually beneficial
GiveOver@feddit.uk 18 hours ago
I raised some pride flags next to the flags around my area. It really kills the racist message. Somebody else has also gone round attaching a “No hate” sign to the bottoms of every flagged lamppost.
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Flax_vert@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
That’s nice, although the Union Flag should be above the pride flag
GiveOver@feddit.uk 12 hours ago
It gets ripped down too quickly if I put it below! You can see the old cable ties from when I made that mistake.
I am SHOCKED that the patriots who hung the Union Flag did not respect proper flag protocol.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
Exactly what I said. Oppose the use of the flag as a intent to scare immigrants.
While making reasoned and rational arguments for and against different immigration policies.
Of course the above is as unbiased as it can be.
But as someone with more left of centre ideals.
It’s not complex. As a nation we have always depended on immigration. Angle Celts and Jutes immigrated to this nation before the flooding of dogger bank some 12k years ago. Much as in the rest of the world. Excluding the plains of Kenya. No human is entirely native to any one nation. Mixing of cultures and people has always advantages the human race.
But the right wing is very much being intentional in their use of other to distract the people. It is a key goal of fasism.
The rights use of the flag as an element of fear. Is both intentional and a long known core element of fascist ideology.( Ultra nationalism and the selectionof a enemy class. ). intended to control opposition to the elite.
Absolutely nothing the right claim as an issue to the UK is the fault or responsibility of immigration.
While all the issues that drive people to accept such claims. Are the result of intentional reductions in rights and equality lead by 50 plus years of right of centre governments.
As bad as godwins law can be. Their is a reason so many of the rights actions match 1930 Germany.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
That’s an Americanism. Immigration from one country to another is generally accepted, eg, between european countries. The issues are people “fleeing war” from Afghanistan and where do they settle. Pakistan? No. Turkiye? No. They have to make it to the UK for some strange reason.
I’m actually pro letting Afghans in who helped our nation and may face persecution under the taliban. The people coming in on small boats aren’t honest people. The honest people migrate legally as they respect our laws.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
You are inventing divisions where non existent.
For starters there is absolutely no law or history where war refugees are required to settle in the first safe nation. Much the opposite the Geneva convention makes it illegal to use access or distance to limit the movement of refugees. This is specifically their as forcing nations nearest a war zone to accept refugees would increase the odds of the war spreading into their borders.
As for the difference between EU and refugees. Given the whole Brexit history that is an utterly dumb complaint. It has absolutely no marit in this debate as the flag was specifically used to argue against all type of immigration in recent times.