Comment on Prime Minister calls for 'respectful' debate after protesters target No campaign event
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I love giving specific powers to a specific race within the constitution is anything but racism. Sounds almost like the textbook definition of racism to me but what do i know.
Of which powers do you speak?
There is nothing in the proposal that says the body will have any power whatsoever. It can’t propose bills. It can’t veto bills. All it can do is draw attention to matters that will specifically impact First Nation peoples.
Ok so if its powerless then its pointless and a waste of taxpayer money. If its not powerless then its exactly as i said. So which one is it? How is it not racist to have a body as part of government that requires u have a particular race to be a part of.
It is a step. The first step towards a reconciliation and hopefully a treaty between First Australian and the new Australians who have come in the past 250 years.
Because it is to be constitutionally recognised, the body cannot be dissolved by some future government. If and when we reach a treaty, the body will exist to represent the diverse Aboriginal peoples around the nation.
So we should scrap all the other 20+ advisory panels with the same “powers” such as the landlords one, and the big business one?
Yes lol. Half the reason this country is deteriorating is because big business is calling the shots, and the state of our property market is well trodden ground.
Are any of them in the constitution?
I will not remove this comment, however, this argument is tired and has been rejected time and time again. It’s just wrong. In fact I would go so far as to say misinformation.
As has been stated by other users the alteration actually gives no power to Indigenous Australians that they don’t already have:
Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples
129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice
In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:
there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
I forgot to mention it in the post because Dale wouldn’t have picked up that this article was about the voice but we do have a megathread where this has been brought up before. If it becomes apparent that you are engaging in bad faith there will be further action taken.
I dont believe im engaging in bad faith if i am i would be more than happy for you to explain how
is this one of the arguments you got from that pro-putin cooker who is organising ‘NO’ protests?
No this is the argument that any lines drawn by race are inertly racist. I have no idea who this pro putin cooker is but putin is genociding the Ukrainian people which is also racist.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Apparently not a lot, considering actual race based powers have been in the constitution since its inception.
Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 1 year ago
The foundation of the Australian colony is predicated on the notion that Indigenous People are not real humans and therefore the land was unoccupied.
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most where removed currently there are only 2 sections that mention race that being section 25 and section 51. Section 25 prohibits a state from considering a race prevented from voting as part of their population (this was to encourage states not to discriminate but with our mandatory voting seems kinda irrelevent). Section 51 grants the commonwealth the ability to make laws about specific races. So as of current nothing in the constitution grants a race specifi powers it simply grants the government the ability to govern race.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Why do you think 51(xxvi) was created?
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For the white Australia policy there was a referendum in 19 something that removed indigenous peoples exception