Comment on Arguing for the car as a good method of transportation is like arguing that having personal diesel generator to power you home is a good idea

MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Only because public transit is shit in rural areas due to the coal, oil, and gas lobby.

  In countries like Switzerland, it’s available even in rural areas. A big country like China can build them aplenty. And the US used to have a much denser network of public transit.

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  • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We have basic public transit, and id say long distance transport is excelent, but it does not serve me at all when i need to drive because of my work from farm to farm, or i want to pick mushrooms or berries from random forest plots.

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And bicycling then?

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      • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because i cant bike holding fence posts and tools. Nearest shop is 15km one way trip and nearest bus stop 500m away. Long enough so i dont want to carry my groseries by hand.

        As for biking i do a lot of recreational bike trips.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lmao.

    Bruh I was in Switzerland last year, their rural areas are like 20min from their urban areas. You can literally fit 26 countries of Switzerlands into a single province of Ontario.

    Public transit is great, but you’re acting like public transit can cover all the edge cases of country living and it just fundamentally cannot.

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• Mihies@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Aggregate? It shouldn’t be necessary these days, care to elaborate?

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  • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Last winter snow pressed trees against the power line and it rook 36 hours for electric company get it fixed.

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wouldn’t it then be better to have underground lines?

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      • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There are about 14 500 km of powerlines in my country and many of those go trough long unhabitabed stretches. Another thing is that where i live ground freezes and that makes the ground shift, sometimes enough to ruin foundations of buildings so there are some real problems to make long underground lines.

        But yes. It would be nice if underground lines were easy to make.

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      • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Underground lines cost 3 to 20 times more, have higher power loss, last about half as long and can’t be as long as overhead transmission lines.

        Running a generator for a short period every few years when a line goes down will cost less and cause less pollution than putting in underground lines.

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    • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      36 hrs sounds quite well suited for a i.e. 30kWh battery that you could charge it during night or whenever electricity is cheaper. Depends on your case of course, but it probably could be done like that.

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      • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I looked in to those, but for those to be effective you need to keep them always charged. Also cheaper ones need air conditioned space and more expencive ones were, well expensive.

        I also need three-phase power for some tools away from the home and the convertor for the batteries seemed really expensive and not easy to use on the fly.

        And biggest thing is that if something reallu bad happens i can easily get more gas, but recharging batteries would mean i need to go somewhere to charge them.

        Another thing that somebody is going to say soon are solarpanels, but i live near arctic circle and during winter the operating time for them is so short i would need to make way too big solar farm for them to be usefull.

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