Comment on Microsoft is making every Windows 11 PC an AI PC

• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You’re going to need to figure out why your language sucks because saying that marketting doesn’t have access to the database enough to filter through information manually but does have access enough to get that information through an LLM is just about the dumbest thing I’ve heard of. They either have access or they don’t, which is it?

  Ok so again, you’re really showing your complete lack of knowledge in IT here. Direct database access is completely locked down to a handful of IT people. Marketing, Finance, etc all have to use IT made reports and tools to see specific things that IT made for them. They cannot just go to the database and do “select * from purchases”. Unless a report etc exists that has exactly what they need, they can’t get it quickly.

  With the copilot agent, they now can. They can’t make changes, it’s read only, and it’s only the tables and data that they are approved to have access to.

  Are you with me? They didn’t have access to run custom queries on the database. Now, thanks to the AI bot, they do. Pretty simple.

  And for the love all that is good and holy HOW THE FUCK WAS ANYTHING BEING DONE BEFORE THE AI AGENT?! ANSWER THE VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!

  I already answered that lol

  See the support process above.

  The support process above, the list that starts with this:

  Again though, this is just you not understanding a simple example. I’ll break it down for you even simpler.

  This really isn’t hard to understand. The AI Agent means that IT don’t have to constantly run custom queries and make reports for other teams, because the other teams can now get the data that they want themselves in an easy to use non-techy way. They don’t need to learn SQL, they don’t need access to production VMs and DBs - they just talk to the AI agent in teams, as if it was a person.

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My. Guy.

    • The copilot agent has access to at least a read only part of the database, right? And this means that it is possible for something to have access to the database, right?
    • It generates reports for them using this access to the database, right?
    • It knows what each piece of information means because each piece of information comes with some kind of identifier so nothing falls through the cracks, right?
    • “Unless a report exists” exactly, so how would that report have been made pre-copilot? This has been my question the entire time. What were people doing in 2018, for example?

    What is stopping you from making an interface that a human being can use instead of forcing them to go through a copilot agent? I’m assuming that the database is not a clumsily assorted stack of PDF reports or you would have said something by now(right?). All data would have some way of identifying it(sale instance was for X product in Y location for Z amount at [time], for example) and if you can integrate co-pilot than surely you can integrate something to handle that information, right?

    Before the copilot agent, there was no system whatsoever for anyone to make reports because no one had access to the database? So they just hucked information into it and it was lost to time? What if an auditor came through and needed to see things? Did you just say “sorry, no one has access to the database and you’re going to have to wait until LLMs exist and FreedomAdvocate integrates one into the database”?

    Look, dude, I’m ok with not understanding something but you haven’t given me any indication that what I’m asking for wouldn’t work. All you’ve said is “no that won’t work” and the most in-depth thing I’ve gotten is that “there are a lot of places to find the info” but never really elaborated on why that’s a significant problem or why co-pilot can handle it so vastly differently(and without missing anything).

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Unless a report exists” exactly, so how would that report have been made pre-copilot? This has been my question the entire time. What were people doing in 2018, for example?

      I have literally answered this multiple times lol. I’ll tell you where AGAIN:

      The support process above, the list that starts with this:

      Again though, this is just you not understanding a simple example. I’ll break it down for you even simpler.

      What is stopping you from making an interface that a human being can use instead of forcing them to go through a copilot agent?

      What’s stopping me from making a “get whatever you want from the database without having to know a single thing about the database itself, and without having to know any database query languages” interface? Really?

      Before the copilot agent, there was no system whatsoever for anyone to make reports because no one had access to the database?

      Ok I can only assume you’re purposefully being ignorant now.

      Look, dude, I’m ok with not understanding something but you haven’t given me any indication that what I’m asking for wouldn’t work. All you’ve said is “no that won’t work” and the most in-depth thing I’ve gotten is that “there are a lot of places to find the info” but never really elaborated on why that’s a significant problem or why co-pilot can handle it so vastly differently(and without missing anything).

      You fundamentally do not understand how databases and data access work. I’ve tried explaining it to you in the most basic of terms that even a 6 year old could understand, and you still don’t get it. You still keep saying I haven’t answered your question despite me answering it multiple times.

      Do you have an IT background?

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